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Old 08-01-2016, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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It started with slavery (thanks Democrats), continued with Jim Crow (thanks Dems), and now is propagated by BLM and racial preferences (thanks Democrats).
It didn't start with slavery. Slavery was actually a byproduct of the state's lust for money and power. Slavery was a necessary evil for agricultural economies to maximize their productivity and profits(especially where labor was in short supply). Which then provided the money and resources to feed economies, especially industrial economies, which then created greater power for the state.

Slavery is a necessary condition for the state. Whether the slaves are chattel, or indentured servants, or serfs, or wage-laborers(IE those forced to work because of hunger and lack of capital). No state has ever existed without the forced labor of the masses.

Very few would support the state, if not compelled by threat of imprisonment and/or death.

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The State and proponents of the State are always to blame.
Very good my brother. The proponents of the state, merely use division and disorder as a tool to further their own interests, to give them more money, or power, or other aggrandizement.


That isn't to say certain types of "tribalism"(IE ethnocentrism), isn't natural. But the silliness we have seen recently with BLM, is almost entirely a hysteria whipped up by a dishonest media, who are supported by special-interests, who want to radicalize minorities, so that they'll vote for Hillary Clinton come November, because she serves their interests.


Somewhat ironically, the state actually despises racial strife. The state wants unity, tolerance, and cooperation. But the factions who want to seize power, or maintain their power, must use whatever tools are available to achieve their ends.
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Old 08-01-2016, 01:27 AM
 
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Is there a reason in your history lesson why you did NOT mention that BLACKS SOLD OTHER BLACKS INTO SLAVERY?
So is the Holocaust not so bad because white people tried to exterminate another tribe of whites?
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Old 08-01-2016, 02:12 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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So is the Holocaust not so bad because white people tried to exterminate another tribe of whites?
In either case, the issue isn't what happened, it is why it happened.

Most people believe that both slavery, and the holocaust, were basically caused by the same thing, racism. In fact, these people think the entire world is run off racism. They think America today is run off racism.

They believe racism drives both our domestic, as well as our foreign policy. That our interventions in the Middle-East, or Africa, or Asia, are nothing but racism. And not just America, but all of Europe, going back hundreds of years.



Here is the truth, racism is not the driving force of absolutely anything. The real driving force in this world, is money and power. At times, power finds racism useful, generally when it wants to make war, or steal land or resources, or otherwise dominate a foreign people.


The lust for money and power, not only drove the Europeans to conquer the world, and enslave and subjugate its people. It was also the very reason blacks sold other blacks into slavery. And it was why whites starved and killed each other by the tens of millions during WWI and WWII. Let-alone what happened under the communists, all over the world.


As for the holocaust, not only is it largely a myth. But what most people fail to understand, is why exactly people hated the Jews in the first place. And it wasn't merely Hitler and the Nazi's, it was everyone.


The Jews had all the money, because they controlled the banks, and the media. And they used their control of these institutions, to manipulate governments, and markets, to their advantage.

The Jews imagine themselves the "chosen people of god", and their religion gives them free reign to exploit every non-Jew on the planet(IE the Goyim). They are usurers, and have always been, going back to the days of Jesus himself. Who threw these merchants and bankers out of the temple. And which prompted them to have him killed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIuaW9YWqEU
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Old 08-01-2016, 05:31 AM
 
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The Bpp was in response to the KKK although they were 100 years late.
The Black Panther Party was organized first in response to the Oakland Police Department and chapters spread to protect blacks against police departments in other cities of the nation.
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Old 08-01-2016, 09:59 AM
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In either case, the issue isn't what happened, it is why it happened.

Most people believe that both slavery, and the holocaust, were basically caused by the same thing, racism. In fact, these people think the entire world is run off racism. They think America today is run off racism.

They believe racism drives both our domestic, as well as our foreign policy. That our interventions in the Middle-East, or Africa, or Asia, are nothing but racism. And not just America, but all of Europe, going back hundreds of years.



Here is the truth, racism is not the driving force of absolutely anything. The real driving force in this world, is money and power. At times, power finds racism useful, generally when it wants to make war, or steal land or resources, or otherwise dominate a foreign people.


The lust for money and power, not only drove the Europeans to conquer the world, and enslave and subjugate its people. It was also the very reason blacks sold other blacks into slavery. And it was why whites starved and killed each other by the tens of millions during WWI and WWII. Let-alone what happened under the communists, all over the world.


As for the holocaust, not only is it largely a myth. But what most people fail to understand, is why exactly people hated the Jews in the first place. And it wasn't merely Hitler and the Nazi's, it was everyone.


The Jews had all the money, because they controlled the banks, and the media. And they used their control of these institutions, to manipulate governments, and markets, to their advantage.

The Jews imagine themselves the "chosen people of god", and their religion gives them free reign to exploit every non-Jew on the planet(IE the Goyim). They are usurers, and have always been, going back to the days of Jesus himself. Who threw these merchants and bankers out of the temple. And which prompted them to have him killed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIuaW9YWqEU

Mods,someone is making Anti-Semitic statements!


Gross!

Some White people always try to make it other's fault,like above.
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Old 08-01-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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The difference between Latin America and the U.S.A./Canada is the degree of settlement by Europeans. Relatively few Spanish and Portuguese women went to Latin America, so settlement there was mostly limited to European men having babies with local women. Add in a lot African slaves and the area was very mixed from the start of colonization. The North American situation was totally different with the English, Dutch, German, Scandinavian, Irish, etc. bringing their own women and reestablishing their own societies in the New World.
True, but this doesn't seem to support your claim that the races are naturally repulsed by each other.
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I think having separate nation states for different groups of people is a good arrangement and the one most likely to produce peaceful relations. These states need not be closed to the larger world though, and having a small percentage of diverse peoples within a basically homogenous state can be a positive. Diversity is like spice in the soup. A little can make it taste better but too much and it will be inedible.
Because it's simply too much to ask us to be sophisticated beings who are able to put our cosmetic differences aside?

I'm Black and like most Black men I have few if any hangups or inappropriate attitudes regarding race. Fewer White men seem to able to say the same. What gives?
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Old 08-01-2016, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Japan
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True, but this doesn't seem to support your claim that the races are naturally repulsed by each other.
Conflict between races is natural. So is attraction and romance between individuals of differing groups.
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Because it's simply too much to ask us to be sophisticated beings who are able to put our cosmetic differences aside?
Our differences are not merely cosmetic. And given the amount of conflict that has always existed, clearly it is too much to ask.
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I'm Black and like most Black men I have few if any hangups or inappropriate attitudes regarding race. Fewer White men seem to able to say the same. What gives?
I can only guess as to what you mean by that, but in any case the likely problem is differing takes on what is an "inappropriate attitude".
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