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Old 08-04-2016, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Nah... it's the truth based on the same thought process democrats and liberals believe. It's the truth because the media said so.
It really works the other way, doesn't it? If GOP insists it was a ransom, then they need to prove it. Are they saying US still owes Iran $400 million for the arms deal?

semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit, = "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges."

 
Old 08-04-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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From post 6...

Obama touched on the subject of the settlement during a Cabinet Room statement that January weekend when the Americans were freed.

"The United States and Iran are now settling a longstanding Iranian government claim against the United States government," Obama said, adding, "For the United States, this settlement could save us billions of dollars that could have been pursued by Iran. So there was no benefit to the United States in dragging this out. With the nuclear deal done, prisoners released, the time was right to resolve this dispute as well."


After the prisoners were released, he released money. That's what Obama said. Looks like ransom to me.

Please explain how returning Iran's own money to them could be considered "ransom."
 
Old 08-04-2016, 07:04 AM
 
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Please explain how returning Iran's own money to them could be considered "ransom."
Let's put this in front of an impartial jury to decide what it is. The govt. can spin it their way, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck - it's a duck. I suppose if it's found out that there was another 100 billion sent to them on the side - you'd argue that it's interest owed to them on their deposits.

Dems are totally brainwashed by their govt. masters.
 
Old 08-04-2016, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Fact Check: Republicans Are Lying About Obama’s “Secret” $400 Million Payment To Iran

Yeah, well...

It's just what they do.

 
Old 08-04-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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Please explain how returning Iran's own money to them could be considered "ransom."
Obama spelled out the terms of when the money issue was to be resolved - which was after the prisoners release.

He has been in office for 7.5 years. The money has been there since 1979. Somehow it gets paid at a particular point in time coinciding with the release of the prisoners. The Iranian leaders called it a ransom as well.

You are free to play dumb if you want.
 
Old 08-04-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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This was openly discussed.

At what point will some here feel duped for falling for every right wing site that pushes coordinated, but unfounded attacks...?





Fact Check: Republicans Are Lying About Obama's "Secret" $400 Million Payment To Iran


Any agreement PRIOR to the revolution is NULL AND VOID the minute they took American hostages. President Trump would have CHARGED THEM INTEREST on money that we were "holding" for them.

If this was THEIR money, it could have been wire transferred to the bank account of the Iranian government. Sending cash is paying a ransom to terrorists.

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Old 08-04-2016, 09:10 AM
 
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Please explain how returning Iran's own money to them could be considered "ransom."
Why did they decide to kidnap 3 more people, are they serving them tea?
 
Old 08-04-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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This was openly discussed.

At what point will some here feel duped for falling for every right wing site that pushes coordinated, but unfounded attacks...?

Fact Check: Republicans Are Lying About Obama's "Secret" $400 Million Payment To Iran
We are supposed to believe this lawless president's administration, that this was just an innocent coincidence of events, so.... nothing to see here?
 
Old 08-04-2016, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Obama spelled out the terms of when the money issue was to be resolved - which was after the prisoners release.

He has been in office for 7.5 years. The money has been there since 1979. Somehow it gets paid at a particular point in time coinciding with the release of the prisoners. The Iranian leaders called it a ransom as well.

You are free to play dumb if you want.

Dumb would be calling the return of someone's own money, "ransom."

 
Old 08-04-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why did they decide to kidnap 3 more people, are they serving them tea?
Ask the ayatollah for an explanation.

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