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He followed him. He got out of the truck. We got one side to the story and as we know Zimmerman isn't the most upstanding citizen one can find.
No. GZ did not follow, TM.
While TM was walking near GZ'd vehicle, GZ was on the phone with the non-emergency dispatcher (NED). GZ was afraid of TM.
This is not surprising. Testimony at trial showed that GZ was typically afraid to confront any of the people that he called the police to report.
While speaking with the NED, TM suddenly took off running away from the area where GZ was sitting in his parked vehicle. The NED asked GZ where TM was running, and as TM had already taken off, GZ exited his car and hurried to the T in the sidewalk to try to see where TM was running to. When the NED heard the sound of GZ running and noticed that GZ was short of breath, the NED asked if GZ was following TM and told GZ that he needn't do so. GZ replied, "OK" and remained at the area of the T in the sidewalk and told the police to call him when they arrived through the community gates.
Meanwhile, TM was talking to the girl on his telephone and indicated that he was at his father's girlfriend's place, which was some 400 feet from the T in the sidewalk where GZ was waiting for the police.
In the several minutes that passed, TM confronted GZ at the sidewalk T area and the incident ended about 25 feet in between the buildings from the T.
TM did not feel threatened. If he did, there was no reason for TM to leave the safety of his father's girlfriend's place and return to the place where GZ was awaiting arrival of the police.
This was shown at trial. The confrontation started at the T. GZ dropped his phone and a small flashlight at the T, when TM sucker punched GZ in the nose, and the scuffle ended about 25 feet from there, with other bits of debris scattered in a line to where TM was atop GZ and where GZ finally shot TM. If you've ever been in a fight outside in an open area, you will know that it is common for the belligerents to move quite some distances from where their altercation starts.
Now, you can continue to ignorantly (or perhaps you do so purposely) to post falsehoods, or, you can accept that the facts and evidence on record and illustrated/demonstrated at trial show that GZ was not following TM.
GZ was scared ****less of TM and only exited his vehicle after TM took off running and the NED asked which way TM was running. As soon as the NED told GZ that he needn't follow TM, GZ stopped and awaited arrival of the police. Per testimony given at trial by the police, GZ did not want to confront those who he made calls about, and per testimony of the coach who was trying to train GZ in martial arts, GZ was so pathetic that GZ was not permitted to spar at the gym.
You must be wilfully obtuse to believe that GZ was following TM.
BUT, even if GZ was following TM, doing so is not a crime nor does a rational person believe that following deserves a beatdown.
If you are dumb enough to believe that, then I fear for your safety. There is always someone tougher and or armed. TM learned a hard lesson. How is it that you have not learned the same lesson from TM?
While TM was walking near GZ'd vehicle, GZ was on the phone with the non-emergency dispatcher (NED). GZ was afraid of TM.
This is not surprising. Testimony at trial showed that GZ was typically afraid to confront any of the people that he called the police to report.
While speaking with the NED, TM suddenly took off running away from the area where GZ was sitting in his parked vehicle. The NED asked GZ where TM was running, and as TM had already taken off, GZ exited his car and hurried to the T in the sidewalk to try to see where TM was running to. When the NED heard the sound of GZ running and noticed that GZ was short of breath, the NED asked if GZ was following TM and told GZ that he needn't do so. GZ replied, "OK" and remained at the area of the T in the sidewalk and told the police to call him when they arrived through the community gates.
Meanwhile, TM was talking to the girl on his telephone and indicated that he was at his father's girlfriend's place, which was some 400 feet from the T in the sidewalk where GZ was waiting for the police.
In the several minutes that passed, TM confronted GZ at the sidewalk T area and the incident ended about 25 feet in between the buildings from the T.
TM did not feel threatened. If he did, there was no reason for TM to leave the safety of his father's girlfriend's place and return to the place where GZ was awaiting arrival of the police.
This was shown at trial. The confrontation started at the T. GZ dropped his phone and a small flashlight at the T, when TM sucker punched GZ in the nose, and the scuffle ended about 25 feet from there, with other bits of debris scattered in a line to where TM was atop GZ and where GZ finally shot TM. If you've ever been in a fight outside in an open area, you will know that it is common for the belligerents to move quite some distances from where their altercation starts.
Now, you can continue to ignorantly (or perhaps you do so purposely) to post falsehoods, or, you can accept that the facts and evidence on record and illustrated/demonstrated at trial show that GZ was not following TM.
GZ was scared ****less of TM and only exited his vehicle after TM took off running and the NED asked which way TM was running. As soon as the NED told GZ that he needn't follow TM, GZ stopped and awaited arrival of the police. Per testimony given at trial by the police, GZ did not want to confront those who he made calls about, and per testimony of the coach who was trying to train GZ in martial arts, GZ was so pathetic that GZ was not permitted to spar at the gym.
You must be wilfully obtuse to believe that GZ was following TM.
BUT, even if GZ was following TM, doing so is not a crime nor does a rational person believe that following deserves a beatdown.
If you are dumb enough to believe that, then I fear for your safety. There is always someone tougher and or armed. TM learned a hard lesson. How is it that you have not learned the same lesson from TM?
Then why did Zimmerman get out of his vehicle? I mean he was afraid. He called the police. Why the need to get out of his vehicle?
Only Zimmerman knows the truth about what happened. I don't believe a word he says because he is a demonstrated liar.
We have several wannabe Black Panthers on this board that champion violence outside of self-defense.
Words, flags, looks not to their liking will be met with fists/weapons according to them. Though I suspect their cyber barks are worse than their bites.
Go out and test your theory.
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Originally Posted by eddiehaskell
^ character assassination doesn't make him guilty or deserving of assault.
That redneck disagreed.
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