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But we do not care about you or your American healthcare woes. That is what you don't seem to understand. If you die or go bankrupt I will not bat an eyelash.
Speak for yourself, as I am not part of your "we"....That is a bit cold hearted, don't you think?
I'm sure if I had access to my computer I'd find a good stat for you. More than 500k people fluctuate into Arizona every winter (that's like adding a second Mesa, one of our largest suburbs). While Canadians aren't obviously all those people, the amount of Alberta and British Columbian license plates I see during the winter would point out that it would be a significant statistic. I see Alberta license plates fairly often during the winter. That's a lot of people, and I wouldnt be surprised if at least 2k of them were Canadian. I'll probably edit this post with a statistic, hold on.
This Canadian website says at least a million Canadians flock to the United States to snowbird, with Florida and Arizona being the most common locations.
This website says at least one million Canadians visit Arizona every year. However I can't find any information on living in Arizona for the winter just yet...
It costs a lot of money to do a formal study on snow birds, which is what I read when I was looking for a formal statistic, so actually a statistic doesn't exist yet. Snow birds provide a lot of money to my state, which is why there is interest in it in the first place. Ask any Arizonan, Canadian license plates are common during the winter.
Oakvillegirly, You appear only to have registered at this site today and you have already made obnoxious comments in three threads. Did the irony escape you when you lectured another poster with these words - "The fact is many people can be extremely condescending and rude".
Considering the wealth and status of both Canada and the United States, both nations should not be proud of the health care systems that exist in both nations. Both are in need of improvement. What is really sad is how much we spend in the US for healthcare and what we get in return. At least the Canadians pay less for second rate care, we pay top dollar for it.
Ya see most of us have jobs and can not spend half the year wintering in the desert. Even still, I can't imagine many retired elderly people wanting to spend their golden years in death valley.
Lots if Canadians do winter in the States. For some it is a hard decision, minus 30C or plus 30C. Canadian health care covers for up to six months but only at Canadian rates so most need to buy extra insurance to cover the difference. I know of at least two Alberta who were in accidents in the States where the province paid to have them return here to save money, one had a medical plane from Calgary into Montana and back, at no cost to her to save the province tens of thousands, the other would have been flown by commercial airline but he could not sit or be at elevation so he came by train from Arizona to Havre by train via California and by ambulance from Montana. Still saved the government money.
I have a close family member in Canada who badly injured his knee. Eight months until the specialist appointment, six more months until his turn came up for the MRI. Now he's on a surgery list waiting for next January.
Isn't Canada who they were holding up as perfect health care?
Not shocked; at my ex employer, our Canadian staff came to the US for care on serious issues.
Considering the wealth and status of both Canada and the United States, both nations should not be proud of the health care systems that exist in both nations. Both are in need of improvement. What is really sad is how much we spend in the US for healthcare and what we get in return. At least the Canadians pay less for second rate care, we pay top dollar for it.
French healthcare is very strict and is operated uniquely. As someone else stated earlier, no country with UHC operates the same. It should be noted that France (#1) and Italy (#2) have both a mixture of public-private organizations in healthcare. So neither the top two are fully public.
I strongly encourage anyone reading this thread to read this study:
Lots if Canadians do winter in the States. For some it is a hard decision, minus 30C or plus 30C. Canadian health care covers for up to six months but only at Canadian rates so most need to buy extra insurance to cover the difference. I know of at least two Alberta who were in accidents in the States where the province paid to have them return here to save money, one had a medical plane from Calgary into Montana and back, at no cost to her to save the province tens of thousands, the other would have been flown by commercial airline but he could not sit or be at elevation so he came by train from Arizona to Havre by train via California and by ambulance from Montana. Still saved the government money.
That's really interesting that the Canadian government pays for that. I have never heard of that before.
In southern Ontario it is uncommon to winter in the south western U.S. Most elderly folk go to Mexico.
And those from Manitoba east go to Florida. Many from Alberta and Saskatchewan do go to Arizona, shortest drive or flight to the sun. Some to California as well. One thing the US has over us is having places that are warm in the winter.
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