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Old 09-23-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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Without all the facts and the video you cannot make that statement. Your words, not mine.
I'm pretty sure he wasn't going to harm anyone being unarmed.

 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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They just released the family video a few minutes ago showing the shooting, many more questions. Tough to watch.


It's on all the networks.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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"It's obvious even if there was a gun that it was not pointed at the officer."

I'm not a cop, but I would guess that if you wait for someone to point a gun at you, you probably won't have time to use yours. I'd also guess that cops run the license plates before walking up to vehicles and know before approaching if the subject has a criminal record, is on parole, has outstanding warrants, has a history of drug abuse or shooting at cops, etc., as is usually the case in these events. That would no doubt influence how they approach.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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"It's obvious even if there was a gun that it was not pointed at the officer."

I'm not a cop, but I would guess that if you wait for someone to point a gun at you, you probably won't have time to use yours. I'd also guess that cops run the license plates before walking up to vehicles and know before approaching if the subject has a criminal record, is on parole, has outstanding warrants, has a history of drug abuse or shooting at cops, etc., as is usually the case in these events. That would no doubt influence how they approach.
Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. One would think a police officer would always be truthful but that's not always the case.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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What if the gun was legally in his possession, and the cops found it and planted it ?
And what if it just happened to be transported in from the 24th century at just that moment?
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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"It's obvious even if there was a gun that it was not pointed at the officer."

I'm not a cop, but I would guess that if you wait for someone to point a gun at you, you probably won't have time to use yours. I'd also guess that cops run the license plates before walking up to vehicles and know before approaching if the subject has a criminal record, is on parole, has outstanding warrants, has a history of drug abuse or shooting at cops, etc., as is usually the case in these events. That would no doubt influence how they approach.


My friend and fellow American. I used to believe everything works as it should. That things are as simple as I believed when I was told by grown ups that if you are good nothing bad will happen to you. I am a college educated, portly middle aged, family man, Sunday school teacher, federal employee. I have a wife, daughter, house of my own. I wear sweater vests with a tie and slacks. I drive a boring midsize car and walk a little beagle around my neighborhood and escort my elderly mom around town.
But I tell you I have gotten stopped and detained by police. I can tell you stories. I don't dislike police officers, I support them and hope they are all well. Yet, I have gotten stopped and detained and I have no criminal record. I have no outstanding warrants.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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Until he pointed a gun at others...
Tough to do without one.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Tough to do without one.
But not so tough with one.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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I watched his wifes video and it looks to me she is more concerned that she just lost a welfare disability check.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 01:52 PM
 
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Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. One would think a police officer would always be truthful but that's not always the case.
I've had a couple of traffic stops in my day, and they always run the plates. It's standard procedure. If I'd had charges, they'd show.

If people are just out to randomly kill other people, there are easier ways than becoming a cop first and putting your own life at risk every day.
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