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View Poll Results: Which one?
Columbus Day 100 68.49%
Indigenous Peoples' Day 46 31.51%
Voters: 146. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-11-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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So When These retail stores say columbus day sale. Does that mean everything is free since C. Columbus got everything for free.?
No

As Democrats would say it's not Free this Free that, it is just redirecting taxes differently.

 
Old 10-11-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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Muhammad was worst.
The Challenge – Faithfreedom.org

Yet many States foolishly celebrate his heritage.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...n-ontario.html
If we compare Hitler to Stalin... does it matter who's worse? Or should we decide who's worse then celebrate the lesser of the two?
 
Old 10-11-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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If we compare Hitler to Stalin... does it matter who's worse? Or should we decide who's worse then celebrate the lesser of the two?
And yet that's how statists vote.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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Muhammad was worst.
The Challenge – Faithfreedom.org

Yet many States foolishly celebrate his heritage.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...n-ontario.html
I'm gonna add to what skepticrat said, stay on topic. We're talking about Columbus, not Muhammad or Islam
 
Old 10-11-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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I think the fuss is because Native Americans suffer from poverty more so than any other racial demographic. Most of this is attributed to all that arbitrary history that keeps getting brought up. I also doubt this is news to you.

No, you were fussing about Indians losing their culture, etc. and I said it is alive and well today. Do you have a link backing up your claims that they suffer from poverty more than any other race? I think it is blacks. Many Indian tribes own casinos now.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 04:29 PM
 
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I prefer Indigenous People Day. Columbus was a murderer and probably a rapist too

I prefer neither. There were no indigenous peoples to this country/continent.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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Indigenous Peoples' Day Gains Momentum As A Replacement For Columbus Day : The Two-Way : NPR



Clearly, a growing number of jurisdictions in the US are recognizing the second Monday in October as Indigenous Peoples' Day in lieu of the federal holiday that is Columbus Day.

I decided to create a poll to gauge opinions on this matter. I recognize that opinions may be nuanced, and you can certainly expound upon your own, but if you had if you had to choose one celebration, which one would you choose?
I'm not one to talk down about Columbus being stupid etc.

I think the dude was smart (had to be to dead-reckon), ambitious, and had a lot of guts for his time period. And for Europeans he made a tremendous discovery about another part of the planet that other Europeans would follow in his footsteps from. Including the Italian namesake for "America."

But for the Amerindians (and the people of the Americas were not "Indians" in India--per a new route Columbus was searching for due to the Muslims cutting the West off from India) the arrival of Columbus would be the beginning of the end of their world, an apocalypse to their world in many ways.

But more importantly for the year 2016 I regard the Columbus Day celebration thing kind of akin to the Orange parades in Northern Ireland the decendants of the Scots (and lesser extent English) like to have yearly through Catholic sections of the Northern Ireland, which the Irish and not Scots are "indigenous" too.

So, I voted in the poll for the Amerindians. It is time over due to restore them their honor.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 04:56 PM
 
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So When These retail stores say columbus day sale. Does that mean everything is free since C. Columbus got everything for free.?
Actually he got nothing for free, he worked, fought and schemed for it and risked life and limb. He spent years acquiring sponsorship from a Crown. He died early probably due to illness from his voyages.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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So it doesn't matter if he tortured and mutilated a a few thousand people on the way?
It doesn't matter that some of the "indigenous" people practiced mass human sacrifice, cannibalism, slavery, war, oppression etc against other "indigenous" and sometimes their own people? You still want Indigenous day despite many of them being horrible societies.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 05:07 PM
 
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But more importantly for the year 2016 I regard the Columbus Day celebration thing kind of akin to the Orange parades in Northern Ireland the decendants of the Scots (and lesser extent English) like to have yearly through Catholic sections of the Northern Ireland, which the Irish and not Scots are "indigenous" too.

So, I voted in the poll for the Amerindians. It is time over due to restore them their honor.
The Irish-Scots are the same people for all intents and purposes and both indigenous to Ireland.

No one is taking away Indian's honor. If they want to celebrate their tribe or all tribes and not celebrate Euro-centric figures in their sovereign communities, no one is stopping them, but don't try to force and overwrite it on others'.
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