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Old 10-14-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Well how about the Democrat party just winning by being strongly the non-white, immigrant and foreigner party and even anti-white, anti-American? That's the only future for America? Then it needs split up.
No. White folks didn't want it split up when they had all the electoral power. Everyone else had to just suck it up and deal with the jackboot on the neck.

You're lucky. Whites still have plenty of say so, but they no longer solely dominate the process....however, no jackboot is on their neck.

So ....you know. Deal with it.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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They want to take god, religion, morals, ethics out of our society and turn America into saddam and gomorrah so the south conservative ideology isn't essentially a thing of the past.

All the great values that originally made america great are gone. As a replacement we have been given the The Kardashian's home.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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How about the government not be so big and involved in people's lives and business to begin with? How about not substituting the communist or progressive religion for traditional religion. No one needs the government to tell them who they should like, accept, associate, live and do business with.
I agree completely. Which is why they shouldn't legislate who can or can't get married, what women can do with their bodies or any of those other favorite Republican memes.


Religion has a proud history in this country, it's just not in Government, as the founders intended.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:06 PM
 
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We're not splitting the country just because a cabal of paleoconservative fanatics want their great-grandfather's America again. You guys are just gonna have to adapt and overcome to the new reality.

And you will...believe that!
We'll adapt and overcome all right, but not how you want.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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I agree completely. Which is why they shouldn't legislate who can or can't get married, what women can do with their bodies or any of those other favorite Republican memes.


Religion has a proud history in this country, it's just not in Government, as the founders intended.
Gays can call whatever they want to call their coupling, but you don't get to redefine marriage and shouldn't receive government-funded survivor benefits. If you want to argue then widowed Grandma shouldn't either, well I disagree.

Why do you keep bringing up religion. Christianity hasn't been much involved in American government in the past 400 years. That you want it somehow less involved or completely uninvolved any less than it has been is a modification. What gives ayone the right to modify tradition?
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Gays can call whatever they want to call their coupling, but you don't get to redefine marriage and shouldn't receive government-funded survivor benefits. If you want to argue then widowed Grandma shouldn't either, well I disagree.
Getting off topic. My bad.


I have a response, but this isn't the thread for it. Although it does demonstrate why the GOP is floundering.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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No. White folks didn't want it split up when they had all the electoral power. Everyone else had to just suck it up and deal with the jackboot on the neck.
No one had to suck it up. We had segregation but that wasn't good enough for some. We had to bar non-whites from overflowing America. You could've always moved to a non-white country.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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No one had to suck it up. We had segregation but that wasn't good enough for some. We had to bar non-whites from overflowing America. You could've always moved to a non-white country.
This post represents the faction Republicans have to kick to the curb if they want to move forward. Large portions of their base long for the good old days of Jim Crow, but the vast majority of Americans have come into the 21st century. The GOP will have to do so as well, or die as a party.
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Old 10-14-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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After Trump loses, does anybody think the GOP will finally realize that Southern strategy no longer works? We are a very different, far more diverse country than we were in 1950 or even 1970. I think the conservative message could still be sold in America, even today, if not for the undertones of racism, homophobia, and Christian fundamentalism. Some in the GOP understand this, but it appears that most do not. I believe that if the GOP doesn't learn it's lesson after this election (the third consecutive Presidential loss) it may be over for the party on the national level and will continue to devolve until its a small regional party that controls the rural South.
Wow, if you are referring to social conservatism and Trump, I was thinking the exact opposite. Cruz, Fiorina, Jeb, Rubio were certainly more socially conservative than Trump. I don't know that I've ever witnessed this many gay and minority (as in color) activists working for a Republican presidential nominee before. I rarely see gay marriage and abortion brought up, it appears to have fallen off the radar. I've found it all rather refreshing, the social issues are such a bore.
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Old 10-14-2016, 06:29 PM
 
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This post represents the faction Republicans have to kick to the curb if they want to move forward. Large portions of their base long for the good old days of Jim Crow, but the vast majority of Americans have come into the 21st century. The GOP will have to do so as well, or die as a party.
We're just not going to accept the globalization and demographic replacement plan of Hillary, RINOs and Democrats, or the government imposing liberal morality. You're going to have to get with the 21st century and realize it is a failure.
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