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Old 10-21-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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Tunnel vision?

Who about totally lying to the American people and treating them like idiots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adrdmmh7bMo



Obama lied about the AHA not once, twice or even three times. No he lied hundreds of times and, never apologized for the lies even once.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGAdrQ2RpdM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o65vMUk5so


Now Obama is using some horrible analogy about it being like a "starter home".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3PUuxgtXms


Even Bill Clinton is saying Obamcare is crazy;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsCg-0GAbt4


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Old 10-21-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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We need insurance for catastrophic events and a more pay as you go system for everything else. Make doctors and hospitals post prices and give accurate estimates. Do not allow pharmaceutical companies to sell any drug for more than what they sell it in any other country.

Have a military style healthcare system for the poor.
Yes, insurance is for catastrophic events not for a silly cold or anything less than $5,000 - $10,000 in a fiscal year, and we need to motivate people to look after themselves.

For certain known health issues such as obesity, smoking, and drug abuse, or not taking vaccine, people need to pay for the consequences.
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Old 10-21-2016, 04:04 PM
 
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Obama also blamed Millenials for ruining Obamacare.
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Old 10-21-2016, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Pyongjang
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Get rid of it. National healthcare is failing in the UK too. You simply cannot violate insurance economics and expect a positive outcome.

NHS hospital waiting lists at seven-year high as 3.4m need treatment | Daily Mail Online
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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This is Obama "Fix" , according to the Politico article in the OP.

Obama on Thursday called for additional subsidies to help consumers pay for their premiums and a public option fallback. He also called on governors to expand Medicaid under the law.

He wants MONEY for subsidies and a Public Option. Those subsidies would go to the Insurance Companies to try and convince them to not drop out. It was all a scam from the beginning.

ObamaCare is too complex with interacting parts and it can't be "Fixed" in pieces. Obama himself has never allowed any amendments to the law because you "change" one thing and it all starts to fall apart. That's why he just wants to pump more money into this mess.

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Old 10-21-2016, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^GREAT POST KIBBY!

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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
We need insurance for catastrophic events and a more pay as you go system for everything else. Make doctors and hospitals post prices and give accurate estimates. Do not allow pharmaceutical companies to sell any drug for more than what they sell it in any other country.

Have a military style healthcare system for the poor.
How about making insurance portable and having tort laws?

The market is the best thing to drive prices lower. As soon as the government gets involved prices go up.

Why was it called the AFFORDABLE Care Act? Because people like names that make them feel all warm and fuzzy, in spite of the truth.

It wasn't like half the people in here didn't warn it would fail; NOW the Republicans are somehow to blame for a thing that they had NOTHING to do with crafting.

I'm sure Clinton will start blaming GWB for her failures, huh?

Just as Bill said "in all honesty (lapse of judgement) it's the craziest thing ever!"

People are friggin nutty as a Payday bar!
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:47 PM
 
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I support UHC.....I want obama NOWHERE near health care again.

There is NO way to fix Obamacare.
Insurance premiums are going way up again, more people will be uninsured and are forced to pay the tax because they can't afford the premiums. More insurance companies are dropping out because as it turns out the kids aren't so socialist when the money comes out of their pocket. Now he wants the tax payer to bail out insurance companies.

Yes Obamacare is a disaster.
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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Tell BO to stop whining.

There isn't a Republican signature on this piece of garbage .... it is brought to us by BO and the Democratic party. Why is it Republican's fault it failed and why is it their responsibility to fix it?

I seem to recall BO telling Republicans they drove the car into the ditch once ...... Democrats were in the drivers seat for this one.
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Old 10-21-2016, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Insurance premiums are going way up again, more people will be uninsured and are forced to pay the tax because they can't afford the premiums. More insurance companies are dropping out because as it turns out the kids aren't so socialist when the money comes out of their pocket. Now he wants the tax payer to bail out insurance companies.

Yes Obamacare is a disaster.
...as has been Obama! ACA was his signature achievement along with killing Bin Laden.

Ah well, 8 years; killed Bin Laden and screwed up the entire HC system for decades. Awesome!
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Old 10-21-2016, 06:00 PM
 
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What about all the people who make too much for medicaid, but not enough to buy a non-group policy? An awful lot of businesses don't offer anything anymore, so they'd be stuck with individual policies at very high rates.
The Affordable Care Act was supposed to take care of these issues.

I have been "stuck" with individual insurance for my family for years. Time for you proud supporters of BOs signature legislation to sign up, and quit whining about cost. It is now affordable. BO says so.
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