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It is their job to work for "the people of this country" not sit on their asses and do nothing.
In this case the Democrats should have sat on their asses and done nothing. Their work for the people of this country has produced a piece of failed legislation, and their response is to whine and cry that those who were never given a voice in its creation now have to help them clean it up.
In this case the Democrats should have sat on their asses and done nothing. Their work for the people of this country has produced a piece of failed legislation, and their response is to whine and cry that those who were never given a voice in its creation now have to help them clean it up.
Exactly! They need to work together to make it better, but that will never happen.
Why isn't it a solution? Obama either intentionally lied to us about how it would work, or he's so completely inept that he didn't understand the obvious ramifications it would have. Either way, we'd be fools to entrust him with more money, more power & let the corporations have more carte blanche. It'd be like asking George W. Bush to plan our next war for us.
No. It is up to the party that single-handedly passed the monstrosity to fix it. When a kid messes up his room, you do not get all his siblings to help him clean up the mess.
The Dems are going to be hearing I told you so forever, and they deserve all the blame. This is their fault, and solely their mess. They need to accept personal responsibility. They alone need to fix it.
When the republicans were in power what did they do about it? The cost has been going up and up way before most of us heard about Obama. They did nothing!!!
We had great insurance options; the vast majority insured by super employer plans. Most with out of pocket maxs at a negligible portion of total cost of medical procedures/meds needed.
We are a Free Market economy, and the Dems instead tried to destroy that, when 6 in 7 Aericans were already insured. Not participating in their experiment in socialism was the moral and wise thing to do.
Republicans tunnel vision. I know the narrative is to repeal ObamaCare and get rid of it. I think we are too far along now.
Instead of just towing the line, why not just sit a minute a think about it... ,
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC
They haven't offered any tangible substitutes.
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I am not concerned about Obama. I'm concerned about people getting affordable care.
Healthcare falls in the realm of the States, not the federal government. The Republicans are right to do nothing to fix Obamacare.
Republicans aren't obligated to offer any tangible solutions, since healthcare is a State issue.
Anytime you or anyone else so desires, you can lobby your State legislators to enact a State healthcare system like the UK, Sweden, Spain and Portugal, or to enact legislation to create a universal system like Germany and others.
Or as several have alluded, you could get in gear with the economics of insurance. That would require deregulating the insurance industry, but then insurance would suddenly become affordable, so why would you want to do that?
You also need to address the issue of hospitals and your entire medical delivery infrastructure.
Adopting a universal healthcare system like Germany has without also adopting the infrastructure reforms and creating clinics and poli-clinics will be a disaster.
Note that it is the price of medical care that determines the price of health insurance.
Work to lower the cost of medical care and you'll make medical insurance affordable.
As long as you're going to continue to allow your broken infrastructure of hospitals to price gouge patients, you're going to have problems.
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Get rid of it. National healthcare is failing in the UK too. You simply cannot violate insurance economics and expect a positive outcome.
Look, we're going to get more government involved in our healthcare whether we like it or not. The question is will we get a system that is based more on private providers with government making premium contributions such as in germany, or do we get the dreadful UK or VA model where getting Healthcare is like going to the DMV.
The Sebelius ruling bars the latter. However, note that private insurance and private healthcare services will still exist in a world of government owned and operated healthcare facilities, creating a two-tiered system.
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Just getting rid of Obama care is not a solution.
It is a solution, it's just one you don't like.
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