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Old 10-22-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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Thousands of California soldiers forced to repay enlistment bonuses a decade after going to war - LA Times

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Short of troops to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan a decade ago, the California National Guard enticed thousands of soldiers with bonuses of $15,000 or more to reenlist and go to war.

Now the Pentagon is demanding the money back.

Nearly 10,000 soldiers, many of whom served multiple combat tours, have been ordered to repay large enlistment bonuses — and slapped with interest charges, wage garnishments and tax liens if they refuse — after audits revealed widespread overpayments by the California Guard at the height of the wars last decade.

Investigations have determined that lack of oversight allowed for widespread fraud and mismanagement by California Guard officials under pressure to meet enlistment targets.

But soldiers say the military is reneging on 10-year-old agreements and imposing severe financial hardship on veterans whose only mistake was to accept bonuses offered when the Pentagon needed to fill the ranks.

“These bonuses were used to keep people in,” said Christopher Van Meter, a 42-year-old former Army captain and Iraq veteran from Manteca, Calif., who says he refinanced his home mortgage to repay $25,000 in reenlistment bonuses and $21,000 in student loan repayments that the Army says he should not have received. “People like me just got screwed.”

In Iraq, Van Meter was thrown from an armored vehicle turret — and later awarded a Purple Heart for his combat injuries — after the vehicle detonated a buried roadside bomb.
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Susan Haley, a Los Angeles native and former Army master sergeant who deployed to Afghanistan in 2008, said she sends the Pentagon $650 a month — a quarter of her family’s income — to pay down $20,500 in bonuses that the Guard says were given to her improperly.

“I feel totally betrayed,” said Haley, 47, who served 26 years in the Army along with her husband and oldest son, a medic who lost a leg in combat in Afghanistan.

Haley, who now lives in Kempner, Texas, worries they may have to sell their house to repay the bonuses. “They’ll get their money, but I want those years back,” she said, referring to her six-year reenlistment.
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Even Guard officials concede that taking back the money from military veterans is distasteful.

“At the end of the day, the soldiers ended up paying the largest price,” said Maj. Gen. Matthew Beevers, deputy commander of the California Guard. “We’d be more than happy to absolve these people of their debts. We just can’t do it. We’d be breaking the law.”
Just goes to show you how politicians act like they really give a crap of the people that they send to suffer and die for their greed but in reality most wouldn't think twice stepping over their dead bodies for a nickel.

I wish we could make every politician have a far more reasonable salary, say $40K a year and use the money we save on far more important things like these people who do a lot more for humanity and have a lot more humanity than any of these evil politicians.

 
Old 10-22-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: London
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What the everliving ****.

I am disgusted. What a way to treat our vets.

This should be illegal. How is this not illegal? Those who made those false promises should be personally held accountable.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 07:28 PM
 
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What the everliving ****.

I am disgusted. What a way to treat our vets.

This should be illegal. How is this not illegal? Those who made those false promises should be personally held accountable.
Exactly. It's not the soldiers screw up, so why are they the ones being asked to pay? Why not take the hundreds of thousands of dollars that politicians get that they have never done anything to deserve?
 
Old 10-22-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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Screwing over the vets again. I'm sure if we did deep enough we will find where Wall Street is profiting off this.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 07:36 PM
 
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Thousands of California soldiers forced to repay enlistment bonuses a decade after going to war - LA Times

Just goes to show you how politicians act like they really give a crap of the people that they send to suffer and die for their greed but in reality most wouldn't think twice stepping over their dead bodies for a nickel.

I wish we could make every politician have a far more reasonable salary, say $40K a year and use the money we save on far more important things like these people who do a lot more for humanity and have a lot more humanity than any of these evil politicians.
Where are politicians mentioned in those stories?
 
Old 10-22-2016, 08:43 PM
 
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And, yet, they dole out billions in benefits to undocumented immigrants, no questions asked.

At all.

The heck is wrong with our country, jeezus.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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I had to check to be sure this wasn't some spoof cite of the la times. What the hell is wrong with our government?
 
Old 10-22-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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Absolutely deplorable. Never mind the fact that these are military members who served their country, just from a contractual point of view, how can one side live up to what they signed up for with a contract. Then when they fulfill their end of the bargain, the other side demands their money back. These debts needs to be canceled immediately, and anyone who was forced to pay back money should be given it back with interest.
 
Old 10-22-2016, 09:17 PM
 
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Wow, really?
 
Old 10-22-2016, 09:33 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Our Gov is beyond disgusting and they could care less.Vote for any ousiders you can find.
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