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Old 10-23-2016, 08:31 PM
 
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He got his superb house by selling out to HRC, who he called totally corrupt weeks earlier.
Yep I heard he bought a $600k house after he joined Hillary. I believe that he now has 3 houses now.

Revolutionary what a joke!
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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already early voted for Trump and republican across the board. Though I'm socialist in some ways democrats don't really bring anything to the table of any use... they want to take away guns and let women have abortions.If they wanted to give us back more personal liberty (like Sanders legalizing marijuana) I'd have a reason to vote for them. They are just globalists and corporate bought out lackeys with the name "democrat"

Republicans at least let me keep my guns but think drugs are baad... they don't want to let gays marry and although I support gay marriage I'm not gay so I'm not going to lose sleep over it. They seem to like giving the rich tax breaks and believe that trickle down economics works, and they are actually somewhat right, but also somewhat wrong (I won't get into that here).. they think sex is immoral even though as a whole they have just as many affairs as democrats, they just repent after the fact and think that makes it all better. They think they have a right to legislate morality, something I disagree with.

They are just globalist and corporate bought out lackeys with the name "republican"


State level politics is more important and I'd rather keep my guns and have no state income tax with less services in South Dakota.. we already have liberal states that tax and over-regulate South Dakota doesn't need to be another, so I voted republican. I like keeping my money. I admittedly have it pretty good here and don't want to rock the boat.. I guess it makes me selfish a working stiff wanting to keep my money instead of giving it to teachers. I'm not going to cry myself to sleep or anything over it. The beauty of the US is there's a state for any type of political leaning you might have.. pick one.
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:41 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Finally, stop the crazy majors. Basket-weaving does not make for a good ROI.
Basket-weaving! Sounds like fun!! What university offers a BA (or is it a BS) in basket-weaving? I might want to major in that field!!!
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Old 10-23-2016, 08:45 PM
 
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Yep I heard he bought a $600k house after he joined Hillary. I believe that he now has 3 houses now.

Revolutionary what a joke!

Bernie's Net Worth Revolution. Thousands of $27 checks helped, too.
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Old 10-23-2016, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Bernie is fiscally irresponsible, and his appeal was an inverse of JFK's line "Ask not what your country can do for you.."


I am delighted his campaign failed. One example of his fiscal recklessness: His pledge to let those borrowing money for student loans to be deadbeats and have it wiped away. They signed a contract, they must honor it, they knew the terms..even if repayment is via garnishment years later.


Hillary is owned by Wall St. Wall St has a huge equity stake in the institutions holding that debt. She can fake out the Bernie basement dwellers holding the loans that she now agrees with Bernie, but Wall St owns her at $225,000 a speech. No changes will occur to the terms of that non-dischargeable for life debt.


Trump owes $ billions to US and foreign banks.

I'd call that a conflict of interest.
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Old 10-23-2016, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Bernie's agenda would have been DOA. Congress would never have played ball.
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Old 10-23-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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Trump owes $ billions to US and foreign banks.

I'd call that a conflict of interest.

Normal business, not a conflict. Corps do not use cash. It's not a trip to Wal Mart for shampoo.
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Old 10-24-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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I disagree. I paid $250/semester to go to college 40 years ago. Even with inflation accounted for, today's college tuition is insane, with universities bloating their payrolls with administrators and charging outrageous tuition (I know; I work in a college). American children deserve, if they make the academic cut, to go to college without burying themselves in debt for life. That's what we offer them? We can't compete economically if we don't have educated children. Let's call it a "subsidy." We give Exxon, Mobil--all the major oil companies--subsidies every year that add up into the billions--it's called a "perverse subsidy"--but we can't afford to forgive at least some of the college debt incurred by kids whose only other choice is not to get a college education? Kids who are the victims of greed run wild? We can't demand that America's colleges stop funding themselves and their bloated budgets by displacing American kids with rich Chinese, Indian, and Middle Eastern kids? And all this time, I thought American colleges were for our own children. . . .

As for Clinton being owned by Wall Street: until we have publicly funded campaigns (like they do, say, in the Scandinavian countries), most politicians are owned by Wall St. Even Trump, and you can bet the farm on it.
Great, great post. I would like to borrow it.
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Basket-weaving! Sounds like fun!! What university offers a BA (or is it a BS) in basket-weaving? I might want to major in that field!!!
That is such a worn out tripe, it's hard to believe people still use it seriously in their arguments.


"Underwater Basket-weaving" LOL, meanwhile graduates with engineering degrees are having difficulty finding jobs in their fields.
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Old 10-24-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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I voted for Sanders in the primary, but I'll vote for Clinton in November. Not because I'm a huge Clinton fan--(I have major issues with her corporate ties, support for fracking, and support of the TPP. In the old days, Clinton (and Obama, for that matter) would have been liberal Republicans--but because it's the only choice, given that Trump is a seriously deranged human being (probably a sociopath), h*ll-bent on causing as much enraged chaos as he can, and scamming his followers in the process. There's nothing "outsider" about Trump, people. The guy has been a sleaze bag for a long, long time, and couldn't care less about you, jobs, or this country. He simply wants to be King.

Sanders, on the other hand, was--oddly--the very person who represented many of the things bothTrump followers and non-Clinton liberals want: bringing manufacturing back to the U.S., rejecting the TPP, moving to clean energy, giving America's farmland back to American farmers from the multinational corporations that starved them out of their rightful ownership to their own land, seriously reining in Wall Street, rebuilding America's infrastructure (a few hundred thousand jobs right there), etc. Years and years ago, Sanders was mayor of Burlington when I lived in Vermont. This guy has been devoted to the working-class and middle-class people of this nation his whole life. Same old Bernie, never has been buyable. I was so hopeful that he would win the nomination, because he was truly the only "outsider" in this election. But both Clinton and Trump--as well as the media-- shot him down ("Socialist!" "America-Hater!", blah, blah), and now we have two "insiders" pretending, ludicrously, to be otherwise.

How could we have been so stupid?
Bernie's main objective before he entered the race and was still contemplating the run, was to push Clinton further left, which he successfully did.

The die-hard Sanders supporter Michael Moore had this to say...
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The filmmaker acknowledged that he did not agree with Clinton on every point. He noted that she voted for the war in Iraq and that she’s “too cozy” with Wall Street.

“But to think of her in the Oval Office representing this country,” Moore continued. “I mean, come on… She adopted two-thirds of Bernie’s positions.”

Moore also noted that Clinton could have devastated Trump during the debates but held back, “and I think that’s because, honestly, when she says she’s a Christian, I think she means it and I think she lives it.”

“The people who talk about it, ‘I’m a Christian,’ you know, oftentimes aren’t,” he remarked. “The idea of being a Christian is to just behave that way.”

Michael Moore advises Bible-thumping View host: ‘Don’t get gay married — you won’t like it’
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