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Old 10-26-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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Before you say "the economy!" Or "unemployment is down!" It's because people have stopped seeking work and the new jobs have mostly been low wage jobs. Oh and he didn't kill Bin Laden either- we have our military to thank.

- Obamacare has been a bust as we are seeing now
- Our country is more divided than ever and he is partial to blame
- Things have gotten worse in the Middle East with ISIS
- We have had more terrorist attacks on US soil (bombings and shootings)
- Illegal immigration continues to be bad
- The national debt has increased the most while he has been in office.

A lot of people say "he's so cool I don't want him to leave!" Reading mean tweets about yourself doesn't make you "cool."

Another funny argument is "the only people who hate him are the racist bigots!"
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:10 PM
 
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Because the left will support anyone with that D - Hillary is a great example, and because he is black.
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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The reason people believe the corrupt liar-in-chief is because he goes on TV and tells everyone what a huge success he has been, and all of the sheeple believe him, no matter how contrariety the facts may be. His latest BS brag, "Eight years in office and not a single scandal". What a crock of Bull dropping that one is. Or, how about how wonderful obamacare has been? another laugher..!
The woman man is nothing but a corrupt liar who has done great harm to America..
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Before you say "the economy!" Or "unemployment is down!" It's because people have stopped seeking work and the new jobs have mostly been low wage jobs.
Obama tried to raise the min wage so workers make more money.

And Obama has tried to give small businesses tax breaks and lending aid to increase hiring (but republicans stopped him.)
Republicans kill jobs-creating small business tax cut
Republicans Block Small Business Lending Bill - CBS News

Obama also tried to end tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs, and this would have potentially brought millions of jobs back to America (but republicans stopped him.)
Senate Republicans Vote Against American Jobs By Blocking Bill To End Outsourcing Tax Breaks

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- Obamacare has been a bust as we are seeing now
Obamacare's problems are the republicans fault as well.

For years certain republicans in congress have known ways to stop Obamacare from hurting people. And (1) republican congressman wrote a bill that would have stopped Obamacare from hurting small businesses and other Americans. But 99% of republicans in congress would not fix Obamacare, instead they literally said "let Obamacare fail."
GOP Rep. Jack Kingston: Not 'Responsible' To Let Obamacare Fail | Huffington Post

In 2013 republicans had the means to stop Obamacare from hurting Americans, but instead republicans let Obamacare fail partially to upset voters so they vote republican.

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- Things have gotten worse in the Middle East with ISIS
Before the GW Bush White House said 935 false statements about Iraq and then invaded Iraq, ISIS did not exist.
Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

GW Bush created ISIS with the Iraq war not Obama.

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- Illegal immigration continues to be bad
Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in American history, and Obama almost deported more immigrants than every other president combined from the 20th century.

Obama has deported more immigrants than any other president. Now he’s running up the score. | Fusion

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- The national debt has increased the most while he has been in office.
In 2009 our national debt was $11,909,829,003,511 and in 2016 our national debt was $19,694,316,597,212. But Obama's (actual) policies only raised our debt by $2.2 trillion dollars.

Obama added $2.7 trillion dollars to our national debt from 2013-2022 by extending 82% of the Bush tax cuts. From 2013-2016 Obama added about $1.4 trillion dollars to our debt by extending the Bush tax cuts.
Budget Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of President Bush

Then Obama added $831 billion dollars to our national debt with his 2009 stimulus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nt_Act_of_2009


The rest of the debt growth that happened from 2009-2016 was caused by the Bush tax cuts happening from 2009-2012, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and increased spending and federal subsidies started by GW Bush, ex.ex.

https://www.mercatus.org/publication...-george-w-bush
RealClearMarkets - Do Crony Handouts Have a Stranglehold On the GOP?
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Central New Jersey
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He's not and never was IMO
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Old 10-26-2016, 12:57 PM
 
Location: miami
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Hi! I think people judge him in comparation with george bush jr, and if they think so...is a very..but very good president
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Old 10-26-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Because 16 million private sector jobs have been created under his presidency, gas is cheap, no preexisting conditions on health insurance. There has been a constant improvement in the American economy since he took office. U6 was more than 17% when Obama began. Now it is 9.7%.

This consistent moving in the right direction, coupled with his likable personality, is going to lend him good ratings.
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Old 10-26-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Half of his supporters are completely star struck. Facts don't matter to them. It's the Kardashian crowd.

The other half are vile NeoComms.
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Old 10-26-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Because 16 million private sector jobs have been created under his presidency, gas is cheap, no preexisting conditions on health insurance. There has been a constant improvement in the American economy since he took office. U6 was more than 17% when Obama began. Now it is 9.7%.

This consistent moving in the right direction, coupled with his likable personality, is going to lend him good ratings.
not even close to 16 million jobs


total employed Jan 2001....................................135,800,00 0


total employed in oct 2007…........................……..146,743,000

jobs increase under bush 10.9 million from 2001 up till oct 2007

total employed in oct 2008…........................……..144,657,000


jobs lost start of recession oct 07 to oct 08...............2.1 million

total employed in dec 2008…........................……..143,338,000

jobs lost in 2 months after election.. from oct 07 to dec 08...............2.0 million


jobs lost in recession from oct 2007 up till jan 2009..... 4.1 million


Americans Employed, January 2009:.................. 142,187,000

total gain/loss under bush ENTIRE 2 TERMS ........... 6.8 million gain


dec 09 the ''peak'' of the employment losses.................137,792,000

one year after the ''perk'' ..............dec 10....................139,206,000

.....dec 11................................................ ...............140,790,000

.....dec 12................................................ ...............143,305,000

STILL NOT BACK TO 2007 LEVELS

.....dec 13................................................ ...............144,586,000

....may 14................................................ ..............145,868,000

STILL NOT BACK TO 2007 LEVELS

.....oct 14................................................ ...............147,260,000

FINALLY pass the 2007 employment picture

....dec 2014.............................................. ...............147,442,000

.....jun 2015.............................................. ...............148,739,000

....sep 2015.............................................. ................148,800,000

total employed nov 2015............................................14 9, 364,000




total employed sept 2016………………………………………⠀¦â€¦â€¦.151,968,000


all according to the BLS
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
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Old 10-26-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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Obama tried to raise the min wage so workers make more money.

And Obama has tried to give small businesses tax breaks and lending aid to increase hiring (but republicans stopped him.)
Republicans kill jobs-creating small business tax cut
Republicans Block Small Business Lending Bill - CBS News

Obama also tried to end tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs, and this would have potentially brought millions of jobs back to America (but republicans stopped him.)
Senate Republicans Vote Against American Jobs By Blocking Bill To End Outsourcing Tax Breaks



Obamacare's problems are the republicans fault as well.

For years certain republicans in congress have known ways to stop Obamacare from hurting people. And (1) republican congressman wrote a bill that would have stopped Obamacare from hurting small businesses and other Americans. But 99% of republicans in congress would not fix Obamacare, instead they literally said "let Obamacare fail."
GOP Rep. Jack Kingston: Not 'Responsible' To Let Obamacare Fail | Huffington Post

In 2013 republicans had the means to stop Obamacare from hurting Americans, but instead republicans let Obamacare fail partially to upset voters so they vote republican.



Before the GW Bush White House said 935 false statements about Iraq and then invaded Iraq, ISIS did not exist.
Study: Bush, aides made 935 false statements in run-up to war - CNN.com

GW Bush created ISIS with the Iraq war not Obama.



Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president in American history, and Obama almost deported more immigrants than every other president combined from the 20th century.

Obama has deported more immigrants than any other president. Now he’s running up the score. | Fusion



In 2009 our national debt was $11,909,829,003,511 and in 2016 our national debt was $19,694,316,597,212. But Obama's (actual) policies only raised our debt by $2.2 trillion dollars.

Obama added $2.7 trillion dollars to our national debt from 2013-2022 by extending 82% of the Bush tax cuts. From 2013-2016 Obama added about $1.4 trillion dollars to our debt by extending the Bush tax cuts.
Budget Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of President Bush

Then Obama added $831 billion dollars to our national debt with his 2009 stimulus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nt_Act_of_2009


The rest of the debt growth that happened from 2009-2016 was caused by the Bush tax cuts happening from 2009-2012, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and increased spending and federal subsidies started by GW Bush, ex.ex.

https://www.mercatus.org/publication...-george-w-bush
RealClearMarkets - Do Crony Handouts Have a Stranglehold On the GOP?
More pasture dropping from one of the sheeple of which I spoke. How can you be so wrong and believe what you say.. Very sad indeed, you are destroying your children's future and doing it with blinders on..
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