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View Poll Results: How important do you think is the issue of Climate Change?
Very important 80 31.62%
Somewhat important 27 10.67%
Not so important 30 11.86%
Unimportant 44 17.39%
The problem doesn't exist 70 27.67%
Other 2 0.79%
Voters: 253. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-03-2016, 06:05 AM
 
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What is the largest activity contributing to climate change?
All the heating and air conditioning for Oprah's 12 mega mansions?

All the ozone damage from the thousands of private jets flown daily by Hollywood enviromentalists?
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:11 AM
 
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The Earth's climate has been changing since the Earth was first formed, and will continue to change until it is ultimately destroyed.

The only people who even come close to denying that the Earth's climate is naturally in a state of constant change are the AGW alarmists, who appear to believe that a static climate is somehow normal, achievable and sustainable.

It isn’t.
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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I believe we have climate change happening, but how much exactly humans are affecting it is still in question.
I would rather err on the side of protecting the environment -- but do it in an intelligent way -- if they are going to replace coal and oil, they need to first create an alternative energy technology and train the very people they are taking jobs from for those new jobs. There are lots of exciting new alternative energy technologies on the forefront which can only be good for pollution control and creating new jobs. So I support spending money and research on developing new energy technologies that will eventually free us from coal and oil.

The hypocrisy on the left regarding climate change ( see my post above) creates enormous distrust along with the dishonesty and deceit and corruption we see everyday with democrats.

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Old 12-03-2016, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I believe we have climate change happening, but how much exactly humans are affecting it is still in question.
I would rather err on the side of protecting the environment.
Me too, but not if it makes poor people more poor. And that's what Obama's war on fossil fuels is doing.

Fossil fuels have helped billions of people improve their standard of living.
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:45 AM
 
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Me too, but not if it makes poor people more poor. And that's what Obama's war on fossil fuels is doing.

Fossil fuels have helped billions of people improve their standard of living.
I agree, you must not have read the rest of my post as I said if they are going to replace coal and oil, they have to first train the coal and oil people for those jobs in the new energy fuels. Protecting the environment should not mean job losses and communities destroyed. If anything new energy technologies should stimulate our economy and job security as we will be less dependent on foreign oil whims.
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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Important. The only thing I truly need to survive is the Earth.

However, I don't buy that humans are causing it (we are definitely contributing), and it shouldn't be a political/government issue.
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:51 AM
 
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How much in taxes does it cost you as an individual per year to combat global warming.
If I asked how rotating eggs in your refrigerator combatted global warming, I guess you would want to know how many eggs I have.

Taxes don't do anything for global warming, yet that appears to be the lefts answer to fighting it.
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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What is your view on the importance of climate change?
It's very important to me to laugh about it.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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Can you now give the scientific explanation as to how taxes eliminate CO2 from the atmosphere?
I.M.O. better policies, less than taxes, are needed. But I am a Physics person, not a financial person.

Policies:

1. There is not much that can be done to eliminate CO2 from the atmosphere; some are working on various carbon sequestering schemes but nothing along these lines seems practical so far.
2. But solar power with flat collectors has now improved in terms of cost per produced power by a factor of around 30 over the last 15 years. (These numbers are in my head but approximate.) An impediment to really using this improvement in Solar Power in the U.S. is the desire of some power companies to preserve the status quo. In terms of heating and cooling of dwellings, even for Connecticut with less incoming solar energy than Florida, because we are encouraged to interface with the grid with solar our house now spends about half as much for electric power with our new solar panels than before, and we did not have to pay any installation fees. (There is a company that will install the whole thing --- we get our electricity at a much lower rate than before, and the installation company gets a cut of the savings. But our over all bill is less by about a half than before even after paying in additional $20 a month to the power company for grid use plus paying something to the installation company.) But in Florida, the power companies do everything in their power to prevent home solar, and because of state politics it is to their advantage to do so.
3. Because electric vehicles convert electrical power into motion with much greater efficiency than internal combustion engines convert fossil fuels into motion, one by use of electric cars emits less CO2 per mile. With hydrogen driven vehicles one has the same benefit ; the hydrogen can come from advanced electrolysis of water (which can be powered by solar). I know a scientist in this field who sometimes drives around in one of these cars and it works beautifully and safely. Here taxes and/or money would be needed to set up the infrastructure.
4. One round trip intercontinental airplane flight puts more CO2 into the atmosphere per passenger than one saves by living in a home completely powered by solar and geothermal. Such trips should be rationed by the government, when the trip is a vacation, and therefore, a luxury.
5. If nuclear plants are installed by U.S. standards in low earthquake risk zones the risk to those living close by, as well as the risk from waste burial, is so low as to be an irrational concern. Nuclear power works in France, so why not in the U.S.?
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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That was a really long way to say "no, I can not."
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