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Old 12-10-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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It's called anarchy. Soon it will come to an end.
It's so odd because it was initially the "right" that condemned the Kelo ruling. Well, the "right" and the few principled of the left that are left.
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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It's so odd because it was initially the "right" that condemned the Kelo ruling. Well, the "right" and the few principled of the left that are left.
Kelo deals with absolute ownership and throwing people out of their home. Standing Rock deals with an easement. Easements should be a simple concept; if the electric company wants to wire under your land, they can.
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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It's so odd because it was initially the "right" that condemned the Kelo ruling. Well, the "right" and the few principled of the left that are left.
False analogy Skippy. The permits were approved and the construction began. Cancelling the project when it was almost complete is unlawful. It will resume and be completed once we have a legitimate administration this winter.
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Old 12-10-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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False analogy Skippy. The permits were approved and the construction began. Cancelling the project when it was almost complete is unlawful. It will resume and be completed once we have a legitimate administration this winter.
The other reason the analogy is false is that the objectives of the majority of the protesters is to prevent the delivery of a natural resource to its destination, and not really to "protect" the lands along the way.
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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The other reason the analogy is false is that the objectives of the majority of the protesters is to prevent the delivery of a natural resource to its destination, and not really to "protect" the lands along the way.
It really doesn't matter what you believe the "majority" is protesting over. If something is wrong it is wrong no matter who is doing the arguing or what they are arguing.

Hopefully the people in Iowa prevail and the court rules as it has done in other states. There is no public benefit for someone to simply run something through your property.

WV MetroNews – State Supreme Court rules for landowners in pipeline eminent domain case

Ohio Court: Eminent Domain for Private Pipelines Unconstitutional - 1851 Center for Constitutional Law
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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It really doesn't matter what you believe the "majority" is protesting over. If something is wrong it is wrong no matter who is doing the arguing or what they are arguing.

Hopefully the people in Iowa prevail and the court rules as it has done in other states. There is no public benefit for someone to simply run something through your property.

WV MetroNews State Supreme Court rules for landowners in pipeline eminent domain case

Ohio Court: Eminent Domain for Private Pipelines Unconstitutional - 1851 Center for Constitutional Law
Read a standard real property deed. It is always subject to utility and municipal easements.
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Old 12-10-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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Read a standard real property deed. It is always subject to utility and municipal easements.
I read the court rulings. They will apply in Iowa also.
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Old 12-17-2016, 11:24 AM
 
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Judge hears landowners' challenge to Dakota Access pipeline

Judge hears landowners' challenge to Dakota Access pipeline
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:33 PM
 
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Pennsylvania granting the same argument successfully used in Ohio and WV. That if the pipeline is just going through the state that does not meet the standard of being a benefit for the people of that state.

https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylv...-scores-a-win/
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