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Old 11-26-2016, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I can't say I am surprised in that regard. It is amazing on the coasts that there aren't more homeless with the rents what they are.

This guy at work was telling me that he was making $27 an hour in California but after taxes he was bringing home about $650/wk after health insurance and California taxes.

He said that out of $2600 he brought home that a 1 bedroom was about $1600/mo for an apartment.

I also talked to a guy when I lived in Las Vegas earlier this year who said when he moved to Los Angeles about a decade ago he was paying $600/mo and his rent by the time he left was $1500/mo

Even here in Phoenix with the massive influx of people rents have skyrocketed very rapidly. In the poorest suburb of the east valley in Mesa there are older apartments going for $900 a month with nothing included so that means water, sewer, cable, internet, electric all is added onto that and people from California see it as a huge bargain.

It is amazing the cost of apartment in many cities for just a class C, old, outdated apartment.

What used to be a starter apartment in many major cities is now what solidly-middle class single are renting in cities like Los Angeles and New York City.
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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FYI, that's due to liberal rent control policies.
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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income inequality and housing cost relative to income is always worst in deep blue areas.

Almost like rich liberals don't really care about the less fortunate.

That can't be true of course. Could it?
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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FYI, that's due to liberal rent control policies.
A lot of cities have abandoned rent control, including Boston. There is no rent control anywhere in Arizona, yet rent still went up 30% from 2013 to 2016 in Phoenix
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Old 11-26-2016, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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income inequality and housing cost relative to income is always worst in deep blue areas.

Almost like rich liberals don't really care about the less fortunate.

That can't be true of course. Could it?
It's not a conspiracy, at least not the one you think. It comes down to Supply-Demand and NIMBYs. Increasing supply would put downward pressure on prices, but existing owners (NIMBYs) don't want downward pressure on prices, or what's called a perverse incentive, because they see their residence as a piggy bank/investment rather than as shelter
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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A lot of cities have abandoned rent control, including Boston. There is no rent control anywhere in Arizona, yet rent still went up 30% from 2013 to 2016 in Phoenix
The article focuses on NYC, therefore what happens in Arizona is irrelevant to it.
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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It's not a conspiracy, at least not the one you think. It comes down to Supply-Demand and NIMBYs. Increasing supply would put downward pressure on prices, but existing owners (NIMBYs) don't want downward pressure on prices, or what's called a perverse incentive, because they see their residence as a piggy bank/investment rather than as shelter
Yes, it's done through zoning regulations.
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:09 PM
 
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It's always hilarious when people use terms like "supply and demand" when the market has been distorted by government intervention.
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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income inequality and housing cost relative to income is always worst in deep blue areas.

Almost like rich liberals don't really care about the less fortunate.

That can't be true of course. Could it?
I always wonder what percentage of people are actually libertarians.
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Old 11-26-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The man who knows:


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