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View Poll Results: Do you favor privatizing Medicare?
Yes 16 13.45%
No 103 86.55%
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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I favor privatizing everything. If there is competition there will be better standards for taking care of the elderly, don't do a good job you go out of business.
How many banks and brokerages who didn't do a good job went out out of business after the market crashed?

Were they bailed out with our money after the average investor/homeowner lost a ton of equity?

Too big to fail isn't just an old saying from the crash, is it?

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Old 12-01-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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It is amazing how fast this happens when a Republican president is elected. Trump has not even been inaugurated yet and already this appears to be the plan:

"On the one hand, Trump declared that he wouldn't touch Social Security or Medicare. "I'm not going to cut Social Security like every other Republican, and I'm not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid," he said in a May 2015 interview, which is still featured on his campaign website. On the other hand, Trump's transition website includes this sentence on health-care policy: "Modernize Medicare, so that it will be ready for the challenges with the coming retirement of the Baby Boom generation - and beyond." Trump joining Ryan's Medicare efforts could achieve a long-standing conservative goal..."

A Medicare War Is Coming. What Will Trump Do? - NBC News

So Trump goes from the campaign promise of he won't touch Medicare or Medicaid to he will "modernize Medicare", the new catchphrase for Paul Ryan's plan.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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That's because you think the elderly are stupid. Like my FIL said, "we're old, not stupid."
She didn't say the elderly are stupid, did she?

Dementia and senility are real issues for a significant portion of the aging population. They are often the victims of elder crime, targeted by scammers.

Of course those people need help and protection. Many of them served our country in time of war when the survival of democracy was in doubt and/or built the America we live in today.

I won't allow any political party to throw them to the wolves if I can help it.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:17 AM
 
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How many banks and brokerages who didn't do a good job went out out of business after the market crashed?

Were they bailed out with our money after the average investor/homeowner lost a ton of equity?

Too big to fail isn't just a old saying from the crash, is it?
Getting a bit off topic. But the banks weren't bailed with our money. At least none that I put in. And I agree that a large part of the problem is that the middle class didn't also get enough bail.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:18 AM
 
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Getting a bit off topic. But the banks weren't bailed with our money. At least none that I put in. And I agree that a large part of the problem is that the middle class didn't also get enough bail.
You didn't' put it in, but you sure as heck get to pay it back.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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What is Obamacare? Privatized health care with premium support for low-income people.

What are Republicans going to replace Medicare with? Privatized health care with vouchers (premium support).

So, in essence, the Republicans want to replace Medicare with... more Obamacare!
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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What is Obamacare? Privatized health care with premium support for low-income people.

What are Republicans going to replace Medicare with? Privatized health care with vouchers (premium support).

So, in essence, the Republicans want to replace Medicare with... more Obamacare!
Well...when you put it that way...yes, that sounds about right.

But don't forget, Trump's campaign promise has been changed. He now is saying "Modernizing Medicare".
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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You didn't' put it in, but you sure as heck get to pay it back.
No one has raised my taxes to do so. My taxes are based on my income, not the amount of bank bail. TARP was essentially a wash and paid back. Most all the bank bails were done with Fed money and accounting shenanigans, not taxpayer money per se.

Medicare is the topic.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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No. Care of the Nation's most vulnerable people should not be a for-profit exercise.
Private is not the same as "for profit". I work for a non-profit.
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Old 12-01-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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No one has raised my taxes to do so. My taxes are based on my income, not the amount of bank bail. TARP was essentially a wash and paid back. Most all the bank bails were done with Fed money and accounting shenanigans, not taxpayer money per se.

Medicare is the topic.
Money created by the Fed is no less "your money" than money you paid in taxes.

And yes, borrowing, taxes, and central banking policy are relevant to medicare.
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