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If you are talking about the "angry voter" surge, it is because the country is actually becoming more liberal, not conservative.
Just lol at the level of cope.
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Originally Posted by Enigma777
The pitchfork and torch crowd was sold a bill of goods by a con artist. There is no "right-wing" surge.
Ditto.
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Originally Posted by peequi
Put yourself in a stereotypical American liberal's shoes.
You watch TV, listen to main stream news, professional sports, Hollywood, singers, etc that openly supports the liberal movement.
This did NOTHING to prevent Trump being elected even though pretty much the whole US media hated him.
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Your inner circle has more and more LGBTQ individuals, non US citizens and non US born citizens. Not too long ago, the typical white liberal male probably had that one friend who was born in another country and probably had no friends who was LGBTQ.
And your point is ****ing what? Something like half of the people I work with have foreign ancestry and yet I would never vote for a progressive.
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You never do anything remotely considered conservative or American heritage. Like hunting, camping(remote camping), hiking(no trails), reading The Constitution and journals of founding fathers, going to church, etc
lol yea this means I will support progressive policy. Look mate, I am not even that socially conservative. To be honest I barely even care about tradition. The reason I would never support progressives is that their social and economic views are terrible. It has NOTHING to do with me being some kind of uber-social conservative. It's because they just SUCK.
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There is no right-wing surge, it is just everything right of the far-left is called right-wing somehow nowadays. And i hope that this trend actually is temporary.
Uhm no, the far-right is growing all over the west as a direct response to the left becoming more extreme.
Just lol at this. Progressives in the past were fighing for EQUAL rights, while the modern "progressives" are just stealth racists/man haters who want seperate rules for their favored groups. This garbage will be rejected in time.
"The growth of the far-right in Europe is temporary people will snap out of it herp derp"
"Far-right is still growing with no end in sight thanks to open borders and multiculturalism"
"Men's right activists are a joke and feminism is here to stay herp dep"
"MRA continues to grow and feminism becomes ever more unpopular"
"The EU is here to stay herp derp you are just old fashioned"
"Brexit is held"
"Nobody will vote for Brexit we will remain derp"
"Leavers win"
"Trump is a clown he will never run for president derp"
"Trump runs for president"
"Trump will never become president everybody hates him derp"
"Trump becomes president"
"Le Pen and the national front in France are a joke lol derp"
"Le Pen is doing great in polls and party keeps going. Could actually become next president".
For how long are you going to pretend that is all just temporary and that the moment the "evil old white folks" die that everybody will merely return back to being nice and leftist/PC? CAN'T YOU SEE THAT YOUR WORLD IS DYING!!!! Once the transition has happened THE WEST WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THE LEFTIST/PC ERA. You are DONE and your ideology is being rejected. It blows my mind you still can't see it.
Basically all political movements have an expiration date. Some evolve and therefore have similarities to previous movements, but ultimately are different enough to be considered separate. Some win and institute "permanent" change, but ultimately, the movement itself dies out.
What I find interesting is that because the current "alt-right" movement is doing well, that they start assuming everyone's on board. Not so. Progressives, liberals, and traditional conservatives are still around and will likely continue to exist. Frankly, I think the alt-right (broadly speaking) is doing well because it's saying a few core things that many, even some liberals, are noticing. Pro-national interests, anti-political correctness, and anti-illegal immigration are appealing ideas for many, not just conservatives. Plenty of very liberal people are willing to support and/or work with this movement to accomplish things that are distinct from the alt-right agenda.
This movement is largely transforming the political landscape. Despite older generation's arrogance, millennials are pretty politically diverse and most hold strictly anti-authoritarian views. While many view Sanders as some kind of communist our to take your liberty, the fact is, he's really not. He's economically leftist, which it's valid to disagree, but socially, he's pretty "liberal" (ambiguous term; not a nod to the Democratic party). Older generations ideals are fading for new ones, as always happens, so naturally, certain older institutions will be eliminated or changed. It's really not that one "side" is winning but rather the general political landscape, effecting both "sides," is changing and as a result, so is the world around it.
No, Trump is not a 2017 version of Wallace for the simple reason Wallace was a Democrat. You leftists love keeping out that very important detail. You also like leaving out the fact that the founders of the KKK were Democrats. And you Democrats lost elections ALL OVER THE PLACE because of your lies (race-baing etc.) and the silent majority saw right through that crap. Hillary Clinton had no message outside of name-calling and labeling people.
Secondly, just because you had the first Black President (who is a disgrace) and the first female criminal presidential candidate means nothing. See, the Democrats problem is that you are obsessed with race and anything that has to do with sex (ex. abortion, orientation, birth control, sex changes, etc..). Sorry, there are more important issues at hand.
Funny stuff!
Many Democrats and Republicans felt the same way about prolonging segregation when Wallace was elected and many Democrats supported Trump in his election.
Secondly you guys have set the bar awfully high for the Donald by calling Obama a failed president. I'll withhold judgement if four years from now the Donald has doubled the DOW and created 5 million jobs
With regard to sex, it's liberals who have to keep reminding the sex obsessed conservatives to mind their own business.
Put yourself in a stereotypical American liberal's shoes.
You watch TV, listen to main stream news, professional sports, Hollywood, singers, etc that openly supports the liberal movement.
Most adult females you know take birth control pills and/or had abortions.
Your perception is that everyone wants to move to a big city, probably a somewhat true perception as more and more people are living in cities.
Your inner circle has more and more LGBTQ individuals, non US citizens and non US born citizens. Not too long ago, the typical white liberal male probably had that one friend who was born in another country and probably had no friends who was LGBTQ.
You never do anything remotely considered conservative or American heritage. Like hunting, camping(remote camping), hiking(no trails), reading The Constitution and journals of founding fathers, going to church, etc
It is easy to point the liberals as blind or crazy if you are conservative. But put yourself in their shoes, maybe they are winning.
They are winning in the bubble, in their minds.
Anyone who has dealt with a true narcissist can see the same behavior here. Its not that they are mad at you for a differing opinion, they can't fathom anyone would think differently than them. You do not see this bizarre thought process from the right or from the so-called uneducated. They know there are people who think and feel differently from them. They know lefties do not want their life but big coastal liberals think middle America is jealous of them and would be like them if they were not so stupid. That is narcissism.
Funny stuff!
Many Democrats and Republicans felt the same way about prolonging segregation when Wallace was elected and many Democrats supported Trump in his election.
Secondly you guys have set the bar awfully high for the Donald by calling Obama a failed president. I'll withhold judgement if four years from now the Donald has doubled the DOW and created 5 million jobs
With regard to sex, it's liberals who have to keep reminding the sex obsessed conservatives to mind their own business.
Maybe funny to you, but highly accurate. I continue to hope you Democrats double down on what you've been doing the last 8 years. Trump/GOP is winning....(America wins) and will continue to do so against the socialists/marxists/illegal-aliens of the left. Good job helping the GOP you Democrats. Keep up your fantastic work (part sarcasm).
Did people lose medicare and SS under Reagan, Bush or GW Bush?
This is why Trump won; the irrational meme on the left was finally outweighed by rational people from all sides. Trump promised to strengthen Medicare and SS, but the MSM was too busy trashing him to actually talk about his policy promises.
Nobody is saying Medicare will be gutted simply because Republicans are in power, so I do not understand that logic.
It is just a fact that getting rid of Medicare is at the top of Ryan's and Price's agenda. They will, in fact, attempt to do this. This should not come as news to anyone.
This is not about the left "trashing" anyone either.
Maybe the righties were too busy trashing Clinton and creating fictional illnesses to see what a GOP Congress under a GOP president would do.
"...If House Speaker Paul Ryan has his way, the 115th Congress won’t just repeal Obamacare, it will dramatically reform Medicare, turning the program into a form of private insurance...Another key player, House Budget Chairman Tom Price, said Medicare reform was a top priority for the unified Republican government.
If you are talking about the "angry voter" surge, it is because the country is actually becoming more liberal, not conservative.
The pitchfork and torch crowd was sold a bill of goods by a con artist. There is no "right-wing" surge. Enjoy the last dying breath of right wing bullying. This admin will finish it off. Billionaires eliminating Medicare, an AG trying to stop legal marijuana, high prices on tariff goods. LOL--good luck with that "surge."
Only in out of touch liberal fantasies is the US becoming more liberal. The US has been becoming more red for years, the few places it isn't is in a few very dense urban areas. The rest of the country is far more conservative and still half the population.
Only in out of touch liberal fantasies is the US becoming more liberal. The US has been becoming more red for years, the few places it isn't is in a few very dense urban areas. The rest of the country is far more conservative and still half the population.
Your logic escapes me, your article is not about people and your statement is incorrect. The electoral college is outdated and does not represent America.
Over half of the country lives in those urban areas and they lean liberal. That leaves the minority in rural areas.
According to new numbers just released from the U.S. Census Bureau, 80.7 percent of the U.S. population lived in urban areas as of the 2010 Census, a boost from the 79 percent counted in 2000.
The left will not face reality until they continue to lose elections and end up with only 2-3 Congressional delegates.
Huh? Republicans have lost the popular vote in six out of the last 7 elections. They lost the popular vote by more than ever. You are only kidding yourselves, and I think you will find out during this admin just how many in the country are liberal. Especially with Sessions.
Hillary received more votes than any other presidential candidate except Obama.
For how long are you going to pretend that is all just temporary and that the moment the "evil old white folks" die that everybody will merely return back to being nice and leftist/PC? CAN'T YOU SEE THAT YOUR WORLD IS DYING!!!! Once the transition has happened THE WEST WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THE LEFTIST/PC ERA. You are DONE and your ideology is being rejected. It blows my mind you still can't see it.
As a conservative, I hate to break this to you, but it is temporary.
The way things work historically is that people become prosperous, then they embrace liberalism, then they either go bankrupt or are completely owned in a war, then they reject liberalism, then they become prosperous again. That's essentially an unbreakable cycle because in a rich society, people tend towards hedonism and laziness and away from religion, which are the key roots of liberalism.
In addition, liberalism won't ever die because many liberals are never affected by their own policies. Only other people are. This is key because all the people who you hear about who were once liberal are people who actually had to live under their own policies, which immediately causes them to change their world view. Liberals raise taxes, but only on other people. Liberals bring in refugees and illegals, but they don't live near the gated communities liberal live in. Liberals preach about climate change, but they continue to jet around and drive SUVs. Liberals decry prisons, but they won't let convicted felons live next to them.
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