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View Poll Results: Would you accept your child if they came out as LGBT?
Yes, I would accept them 213 72.70%
I might have difficulty accepting them, but I will try 24 8.19%
I would accept it if they were gay or bisexual, but not if they were trans* 11 3.75%
I could not accept it 45 15.36%
Voters: 293. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-27-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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See, while there are no homosexual genes (it would have been purged by evolutionary process if it existed), there are still dispositions that produce mental imbalances (chemical, development deficiencies, etc...) which can result in considerations and actions by an individual that produce sexual deviance.

Well that's just silly. Of course there are homosexual genes.


I am a woman and I have the gene(s) that make me attracted to men. My husband has the gene(s) that make him attracted to women. If my son accidentally gets my genes instead of my husband's, then he will be homosexual. Simple as pie. It's not a mental illness or a sin, it's just part of the genetic make up of a person. Like their eye color, hair color, or skin color. As long as someone who got the "wrong" gene isn't hurting anyone else, or taking from others what doesn't belong to them, there should be no problem. And if a God requires someone to hate and do harm to those who do no harm to others, then that God is an evil God. And if someone harms or takes rights away from innocent people in the name of that God for what they believe is a "sin", then they are a terrorist.

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Old 12-27-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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The fact is, the government has violated numerous liberties by trying to dictate civil liberties as it does. It is the height of hypocrisy to claim people must serve another based on sex, color, race, sexual preference, etc.. and then condemn any type of religious doctrine. A nation of liberty does not force anyone to serve another for it is immoral, it is counter to the basis for which freedom stands.

Maybe I missed it, can you clarify this? Who is forcing someone to serve someone else based on sex, color, race, or sexual preference? Are you talking about slavery? Sex slaves? I don't get how that figures into this.
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Old 12-27-2016, 02:49 PM
 
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Maybe I missed it, can you clarify this? Who is forcing someone to serve someone else based on sex, color, race, or sexual preference? Are you talking about slavery? Sex slaves? I don't get how that figures into this.
I read it as referring to the Cake Shop Indiana wedding thing. . .
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Old 12-27-2016, 02:58 PM
 
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I read it as referring to the Cake Shop Indiana wedding thing. . .
What if every business had a list of the types of people they didn't care to serve for one reason or another.

Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, and lesbians will not be getting their taxes done here.

Baptist, sodomites, tap dancers, and Republicans will be refused service at this diner.

Unitarians, Buddhist, and blondes are not allowed in this bar.

What kind of country would that be?
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Old 12-27-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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What if every business had a list of the types of people they didn't care to serve for one reason or another.

Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, and lesbians will not be getting their taxes done here.

Baptist, sodomites, tap dancers, and Republicans will be refused service at this diner.

Unitarians, Buddhist, and blondes are not allowed in this bar.

What kind of country would that be?
100% agree, was just answering the question.

To add to that, what if a private utility decided that it wouldn't service gay households?

What is Rural/Metro Fire Dept (private contracting Fire Dept.) said it wouldn't send ambulances to gay households?

Could you imagine?
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Old 12-27-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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100% agree, was just answering the question.

To add to that, what if a private utility decided that it wouldn't service gay households?

What is Rural/Metro Fire Dept (private contracting Fire Dept.) said it wouldn't send ambulances to gay households?

Could you imagine?
Businesses already can weed out certain customers they don't want by marketing themselves in certain ways. Bars/restaurants do this all the time, by making the atmosphere uncomfortable for certain types of people. No laws are necessary. Want to have a bar that primarily caters to yuppies and upper-income clientele? Make the atmosphere such and market it such that lower-class rednecks wouldn't be comfortable there. Want a redneck bar? Play country music, have plenty of neon macro-brew signs, sawdust on the floor, and have a mechanical bull. Certain nightclubs keep out segments of the population by only playing certain music i.e. one club I went to in Memphis played only EDM and wouldn't play hip-hop. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

If a business doesn't want to serve LGBT people, decorate it with items that let the customer know the owner is a fundamentalist Christian. Maybe plaster the walls with "Make America Great Again" stickers and Focus on the Family advertisements. Unless they are the only game in town, most LGBT people will go somewhere else.

If you want to tailor your business towards a certain customer, that is what you do. Businesses should not however be able to say "we wont serve X kind here."
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Old 12-27-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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100% agree, was just answering the question.

To add to that, what if a private utility decided that it wouldn't service gay households?

What is Rural/Metro Fire Dept (private contracting Fire Dept.) said it wouldn't send ambulances to gay households?

Could you imagine?
Or a county clerk refuse wedding licenses to people she didn't like the looks of.

Or a Target pharmacist decline to fill certain prescriptions for customers she believes are libertarians.

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Old 12-27-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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Businesses already can weed out certain customers they don't want by marketing themselves in certain ways. Bars/restaurants do this all the time, by making the atmosphere uncomfortable for certain types of people. No laws are necessary. Want to have a bar that primarily caters to yuppies and upper-income clientele? Make the atmosphere such and market it such that lower-class rednecks wouldn't be comfortable there. Want a redneck bar? Play country music, have plenty of neon macro-brew signs, sawdust on the floor, and have a mechanical bull. Certain nightclubs keep out segments of the population by only playing certain music i.e. one club I went to in Memphis played only EDM and wouldn't play hip-hop. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

If a business doesn't want to serve LGBT people, decorate it with items that let the customer know the owner is a fundamentalist Christian. Maybe plaster the walls with "Make America Great Again" stickers and Focus on the Family advertisements. Unless they are the only game in town, most LGBT people will go somewhere else.

If you want to tailor your business towards a certain customer, that is what you do. Businesses should not however be able to say "we wont serve X kind here."
Exactly. If you don't want gay people to buy your cakes, specialize in unfortunate looking cakes.

As you say, focus the music and decor to appeal to the folks you want.

I especially like the Make America Great decor. Then the rest of us can stand around and see who goes in and out. Be a fun afternoon's entertainment.
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Old 12-27-2016, 04:35 PM
 
Location: California
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Again, dear Roaddog, it is not what I want to believe. These are facts. I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between opinion and fact.

In fact, I think you believe what makes you feel better regardless of evidence to the contrary.
No I believe in the facts, you have none, animals do a lot of things like eating their young but that doesn't mean it's okay for you to do it. a dog will hump your leg so what does that mean? i don't think you would want to try that on someone well at least I wouldn't. Animals sex drive is triggered by instincts and hormones most animals would hump a knothole when they are in heat. LOL like I said believe what makes you feel better but it's not a fact.
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Old 12-27-2016, 04:42 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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What if every business had a list of the types of people they didn't care to serve for one reason or another.

Blacks, Mexicans, Muslims, and lesbians will not be getting their taxes done here.

Baptist, sodomites, tap dancers, and Republicans will be refused service at this diner.

Unitarians, Buddhist, and blondes are not allowed in this bar.

What kind of country would that be?
Government?!
What kind of business would that be?

FYI, it's already been that way. You doubt it? Walk your White a$$ down to a random bar in South Chicago. You'll find out where you are allowed.
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