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Old 01-02-2017, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Gone
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

Got a bumper sticker on my vehicle.

They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
Well then, we finally agree on something.
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Old 01-02-2017, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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OP...absolutely!

The are cracking rocks to find gas and wringing the oil out of sand...what does that tell you? Sooner or later fossil fuels start to run out if they have a finite amount.

But for now, enjoy yourself for the crude is flowing freely.
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: USA
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Some of us are doing just that. And finding its preferable and healthier.
Same here. And I'm relatively low income. My co-workers struggle because they have multiple kids, drug habits, always need new tattoos, etc.
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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OP...absolutely!

The are cracking rocks to find gas and wringing the oil out of sand...what does that tell you? Sooner or later fossil fuels start to run out if they have a finite amount.

But for now, enjoy yourself for the crude is flowing freely.
For the time being.

OPEC's Oil Embargo of the '70's jacked the price of oil up, but the oil kept flowing. According to experts, it had little to do with predictions of running out of oil as has been suggested, but rather a response to American involvement in the 1973 Yom Kippur War as well as a way for OPEC to gain a larger share of profits generated by oil companies.

But 40 years later, we are writing the soil from the sand and injecting wastewater into the subsurface which can cause earthquakes and is linked to groundwater contamination

Renewable energy is the name of the game now.

Germany's "energy revolution has made it a leader in replacing nukes and fossil fuels with wind and solar technology."

"Germany plans to shut all its (nuclear) reactors by 2022."

Germany Could Be a Model for How We

We would be wise to follow their lead. Many of our nuclear reactors are nearing time to decommission plus Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster has opened a lot of eyes to the dangers.
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:14 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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If inequality was at 1950s levels but the economy still stunk the American Dream would be over. Inequality is currently at 1920s levels so we can't know whether middle class people could still live the Dream.
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:39 AM
 
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Wrong. Does HUD really want to make tiny houses illegal, or is the movement just entering a new phase? |Tent City Urbanism

The issue is local ordinances, not HUD. And changing local ordinances is doable.Some localities are already doing it.

Only because the tiny house movement has a hip, environmental vanguard. It the tiny house movement were driven by poor people seeking cheap housing, local ordinances would double down on larger lot sizes.
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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However here is when numbers look bad for The America way of Life, since an average consumption of fossil fuels and all kind of energy by an american average citizen is 10 or more times the consumption of fossil fuels and resources of an African citizen or a middle Eastern. And yet, Africans and Middle Easterns have to accept Dollars made of paper to sell their oil so Amercians can keep their standars of living. If they reject Paper made dollars Like Gadafi and Sadam Hussein did, they will suffer the hate of the American army to kill those threatening leaders who reject paper made dollar.


From this propective all countries shoud reject Paper made dollars and request Gold and Silver in Exchange for their Oil that way US citizens would effectively pay the real cost of their way of life and Oil producers will receive a real value for their oil.


This will have a double Good effect, Americans will moderate their consumption of Energy
, and Poor countries will enhance their quality of life and become middle class citizens who reduce their rates of reproduction.

Poor Americans, and particularly members of the Rent Serf Class, will freeze and starve, because the Rent Serf Class lives in energy-inefficient homes and thus are unable to moderate their consumption of energy to the extent that members of the Property Class can.
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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Only because the tiny house movement has a hip, environmental vanguard. It the tiny house movement were driven by poor people seeking cheap housing, local ordinances would double down on larger lot sizes.
There are tiny houses for the homeless. Haven't you heard?

http://www.curbed.com/maps/tiny-houses-for-the-homeless
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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Yes, we do that as well. A lot of people would love to change over to minimalist living, small home living. Solar, wind, etc. What stops us is government regulation.

"HUD Wants to Outlaw Living in RVs and Tiny Homes
APRIL 2, 2016 AT 5:18 AM
The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development – which ironically was founded to end poverty and racial injustice in housing – proposed a law last month that would make living in a recreational vehicle – and potentially a tiny home – illegal."
HUD Wants to Outlaw Living in RVs and Tiny Homes

Codes and requirements for solar and wind are ridiculous. It ends up costing more in government paperwork than it's worth.

We need the government to mind their own business and let the people of America work out these problems. They are more than willing. You have Americans that want to downsize, pay off debt, live debt free, recycle, reduce waste but their is so much red tape it's obvious the government would rather have them in debt and on food stamps. This all needs to change.

Americans resist adapting to downward mobility. Specifically, rent-seeking (economic rent, not property rent) homeowners resist policy changes (local ordinance changes) intended to facilitate downsized living.
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Old 01-03-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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There are tiny houses for the homeless. Haven't you heard?

http://www.curbed.com/maps/tiny-houses-for-the-homeless

But none for minimum wage earners.
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