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Old 01-02-2017, 03:53 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Less a need for pimps these days with the internet .
Why would a teen need a pimp to post on backpage escort section or other similar sites?..

Maybe the next step is to just to not charge all prostitutes? ...

It's not just those under 18 that have pimps. I'd be willing to bet that most pimps likely work with those over 18.
Isn't there still a stigma to being charged with prostitution if you are over 18?..
I wouldn't be surprised. It would seem to fit with the feminist agenda - define all prostitutes as victims, with penalties reserved only for the men involved.
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Old 01-02-2017, 04:12 AM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised. It would seem to fit with the feminist agenda - define all prostitutes as victims, with penalties reserved only for the men involved.
Actually, those of us who believe prostitution should be legal (for adults) want penalties removed for all parties. It clogs up the court system and makes criminals out of people - just like ill conceived drug possession laws.
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Old 01-02-2017, 04:55 AM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised. It would seem to fit with the feminist agenda - define all prostitutes as victims, with penalties reserved only for the men involved.
I'm good with that. I am pro-life and I say this knowing it's not going to happen BUT I would do the same with abortion if made illegal. I would only arrest the doctor. No one would go to jail though. What a waste of resources. The doctor would simply lose his license.

I would do the same with illegals. Arrest the one who hires them. Take their business license and hit them with a huge fine. You address the ones with the most to lose.

In this case the one paying would get arrested. They would get booked, the whole thing would get noted in the paper and there would be a nice fine to pay. That money would be 100% directed to help the other half of equation.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Teenagers--especially teenage girls--can be talked into doing things they wouldn't normally do. The law, as I understand it, changes it from declaring her an adult to face charges, to making her a ward of the court and getting her away from the people forcing her to do this.

A female teenage runaway is a prime candidate for forcing into prostitution. Wanting to belong + desperate pretty much always = bad choices.
understand what you are saying, but if that same girl robs a bank is she not a criminal or should she just be a ward of the crowded courts? I might understand if you are talking about young girls, 14 or younger, but older, they know very well what they are doing.
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Old 01-02-2017, 05:25 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Legalization of the sale of sex while leaving the purchase of sex illegal is already implemented in many other countries with success. It is a compromise between both sides of the legal debate over prostitution.

While I prefer prostition to be legalized and heavily regulated (no pimping, no street prostitution), I too would support such measures. My primary concern is that illegal nature of prostitution makes prostitutes easy targets for other criminal activity (even by the police themselves). They are unable to report crimes against them without risking prosecution themselves. As such, even violent crimes such as rape go unreported. I have been witness to this situation... it is not all that uncommon... distrubing and extremely frustrating knowing that the perpetrator will most likely continue. (Pimps also thrive in this environment)

Legalizing the sale of sex will bring the prostutes under legal protection which would satisfy my primary concern. While allowing the invdividual states determine the legal status of the purchase of sex would satisfy those who do not want prostitution to operate within state boundaries... they can continue to handle it as a "quality of life" issue.

I would support this measure knowing very well that legalization or decriminalization of prostution as a whole is a measure that the US public is finding hard to accept.


This seems to be the underlying intent of California's to decriminalize underage prositution. To bring them under the umbrella of protection of law, to allow them to seek authorities for help without fear of prosecution themselves, to gain cooperation of the prostitute to investigate the pimping/human trafficker, and to allow other laws such as statutory rape/consent, pandering, and promoting prostitution to punish other parties.

I still think the CA decision is a good one but since this is a juvenile situation to be handled by the juvenile laws, courts, and penal systems which by its nature more geared towards rehab than punative. Thus I think another option that has presented itself is to reduce the penalty to the point that it mandates education and help without any real bite from a punative standpoint (see my first post in this thread). Thus yet-another compromise on the prostitution issue.
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Since 2014, 236 trafficking laws have been enacted in 42 states and DC. Every state other than Hawaii has a trafficking law on the books.

Many states no Niger prosecute minors for prostitution or are working to change their approach towards child prostitution, including so called Conservative states.

More States Separate Prostitution, Sex Trafficking

The OP's link is click bait. The author knows the spin that will appeal to the most people and used it to sell misinformation.
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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This is not the politics forum, why don't you save that crap for the correct forum?
Did you read the title of the thread?
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Not treating minors who are most likely victims of sex trafficking as criminals is not the same thing as legalizing child prostitution not even if someone wants to try and spin it as such.
Thank you.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Because minorities don't focus on pushing agendas against their best interest for starters. But you can be what you want.
Oh *snap* ...
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Because minorities don't focus on pushing agendas against their best interest for starters. But you can be what you want.
I'm talking about illegals . I don't care what's in the best interest of illegals or criminals .
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