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Old 01-08-2017, 03:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
The Russian People are not our Enemies.
The Russian Leaders on the other hand are not our Friends.
Simple as that.
Well said, I wonder if the Republicans on this site understand this....
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Old 01-08-2017, 03:23 AM
 
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Well said, I wonder if the Republicans on this site understand this....
There was a television show in the late 80s about a Russian coup in the United States called Amerika.

The 1987 TV Miniseries That Predicted a Russian Takeover of America

If the election of an American president abetted by Russian interference seems stranger than fiction, you're almost right. Exactly 30 years ago, in the midst of the Cold War, ABC aired a seven-night, 14-and-a-half-hour miniseries depicting life 10 years after the Soviet Union manipulates the presidential election as meek and deflated Americans shrug. “

"...its core message is more relevant today than ever: They did it because we let them.


The 1987 TV Miniseries That Predicted a Russian Takeover of America - POLITICO Magazine
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There was a television show in the late 80s about a Russian coup in the United States called Amerika.

The 1987 TV Miniseries That Predicted a Russian Takeover of America

If the election of an American president abetted by Russian interference seems stranger than fiction, you're almost right. Exactly 30 years ago, in the midst of the Cold War, ABC aired a seven-night, 14-and-a-half-hour miniseries depicting life 10 years after the Soviet Union manipulates the presidential election as meek and deflated Americans shrug. “

"...its core message is more relevant today than ever: They did it because we let them.


The 1987 TV Miniseries That Predicted a Russian Takeover of America - POLITICO Magazine
Interesting, will have to check it out.
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The United States and "Russia" (aka. Prussia, USSR, Russia) have been allies and friendly towards one another for the majority of our nations' existance.

We had treaties and alliances signed by Thomas Jefferson. We fought side by side in WW1 and WW2.

Then Stalin destroyed US/Soviet relations with his adherence to Communism, imperialism, and abysmal human rights record.

Reagan famously ended the Cold War when reformist Mikhail Gorbechev promoted Perestroika and Glasnost.

Putin and George W. were friendly and Putin supported our anti-terrorism efforts after 9/11.

Hillary presented a 'reset button' in 2009.

From personal experience, I speak to Russians often via Amateur Radio and visit with them at IT conferences - they LOVE the united states... they are not our enemy.

So tell me liberals - why all of a sudden do we hate the Russians again? They no longer oppress their people, they embrace and encourage capitalism, and generally fight alongside us whenever major conflicts break out.

is this just an example of "the friend of my enemy (Trump) is my enemy"?


Because big government needs a Boogie Man in order to justify continuing to remain big and grow bigger.

Inside of our borders it's the "Evil White Male".

Outside our borders, well what's a better scapegoat that a foreign country full of white people and run by an an "Evil White Male"?
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Would you want to be friends with a neighbor that hacks into your personal computer to take advantage of you? Can anyone say, "Suckers!"


You don't actually believe that we dont hack Russia too do you?


Whose the sucker? Lol.

Here's a clue....everybody hacks everyone.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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So the bottom line is:
Putin a cold war warrior (KGB). wants to increase Russian influence.
Putin has a problem in Kaliningrad. It is the Russian entry in the Baltic and a "state" of Russia cut off from the main country. (left over from WWII and Stalin). Being unable to get to that port is an issue for the cold war warrior.
The Baltic countries which had been satellites of the USSR are now NATO members. Putin will use any issue to try the tactics used in Crimea and control access to Kaliningrad.

Putin a dangerous man who needs to be shown that we will support our allies.
Nothing wrong with working with the Russians as long as it is on a limited basis until the need to expand goes away.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The Russian leaders were not our friends in 1980 either.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Interesting, will have to check it out.
You might want to check this out too:

Mars Attacks! (1996) - IMDb
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Hate Russia yet support Muslims... Go figure.
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Old 01-08-2017, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I personally don't understand why we need enemies?

Since the end of our territorial advances, and our bordering nations, realizing we were a force not to be reckoned with, we have forced ourselves upon other nations and created one enemy after another. Woodrow Wilson passed the Nation Building Act and it gets us all up in other nations business and creates an enemy of any nation, that is not some form of democracy. He wanted us all up in the League of Nations and this One World Government idea. Now, we are in the UN, and guess what. They are trying to rule us and the people of the United States, by-passing anything our congress or the states themselves have to say about it.

Only your own government, right?
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