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Your response had me scroll up to re-read the title of the thread.
LOL, I've had to do that more than once.
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Universal Socialized Medicine, where all of a sudden anyone is entitled to be on Medicare, was unfair to everyone, and was never the intent of lawmakers.
It was disruptive and jammed the always quoted 20-million people that now have healthcare into a program that was intended solely for citizens 65 and older.
How can something that never happened affect people this way?
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Obama kicked me off my employer's health care, then took my tax money and shifted it to mostly indigent that of course wanted the government aid.
Yes, Obamacare helped Trump win but that isn't what was called for. Obamacare is far from single payer. Obamacare was little more than a couple bones thrown to people to give the insurance and pharmaceutical companies huge tax payer funded subsidies.
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Now as far as the title of the thread; those with pre-existing health issues should and will pay a slightly higher premium.
It only makes sense like any other type of insurance.
My lot in Louisiana has a pre-existing elevation above sea level. I pay extra for it.
I'm not against this idea being inserted into the single payer discussion. I'm just waiting for that discussion to start.
To be accurate the "scam" is not an insurance scam but a provider rip-off. The insurance company just negotiated a better deal for you which you should be glad of. The rip off is that the provider can discriminate and charge more to people with no insurance. WTF? The ones being scammed here are the ones without insurance, which isn't right.
IMO, healthcare providers need to pick a price they are going to charge and once chosen, that is the price everyone pays, insured or not. And they must publish their prices so we the consumer can know what it will cost us. Eliminate insurance negotiated rates and let free-market choice be used for consumers to pick the provider they want to go to based on published price. That will lower costs.
I agree. It should be same price for everyone and listed. Frankly, I wish doctors had a an hourly rate listed for themselves and their associated employees. You want your doctor to take unlimited time with you? No problem, just pay for it. There have been times when I was willing to pay that extra money.
Plus, I really think people need to be aware what things cost.
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So others should be forced to pay more for you. Makes sense with an it's only fair what about the children authoritarian mindset.
First of all, it's not necessary to pay more. In Israel we have MUCH better health system and pay much less than in USA if we calculate premiums/deductible/coinsurance and taxes. Western Europe is the same (How do I know? I lived there and can compare).
Also, even if others will pay more, that's how society works.
8 years ago, when I was single with no kids, I had an argument with a libertarian who had 3 teen daughters.
And after his rant about "why do I need to pay for all of those sick people", I asked him, why do I, a single 33 years old guy, need to pay more than him (I had no dependents at that time) for the police, while he (with his teen girls, MILF wife, his expensive coins collection) needs the police much more than me?
And now I can tell why: Because now I have little kids and an expensive banknotes collection, and some younger single guy is paying for the police also. That's how society works.
If you want to live in a libertarian dream, you can buy a ticket to Mogadishu.
I don't like Obamacare because most of it is putting lipsticks on a pig.
We can't solve the health care problem without talking about tort report, reducing FDA regulations and introducing foreign investment for more competitions.
Personally, I'd favor a high deductible plan. $5000 or even $10000 out of pocket a year. Insurance shouldn't pay a penny until that deducible is met - no copay, no free immunization, no coverage on pregnancy, none.
Thalidomide, anyone?
Nayyy... That is a terrible idea.
People think they hate big pharma now...
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I don't like Obamacare because most of it is putting lipsticks on a pig.
We can't solve the health care problem without talking about tort report, reducing FDA regulations and introducing foreign investment for more competitions.
Personally, I'd favor a high deductible plan. $5000 or even $10000 out of pocket a year. Insurance shouldn't pay a penny until that deducible is met - no copay, no free immunization, no coverage on pregnancy, none.
I'd agree but MOST people CAN'T afford those kinds of deductibles. I def can't.
Just TRUST the Republicans who had 7 years to solve this problem. They have all the answers. When they finish with ACA they will start on Medicare and Medicaid. Good voting folks....
I'd agree but MOST people CAN'T afford those kinds of deductibles. I def can't.
And yet, you'd agree.
Wow. Just wow.
Didn't you vote for Trump?
Why don't you wait for that "beautiful and terrific" replacement?
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