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Old 01-26-2017, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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There will be no trade war because the reality of the situation is that the US has all of the leverage.

We may have some inflation, but Mexico will go back to being a third world country.
When did it stop being one?
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Let's get it on amigo.
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:42 PM
 
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Not scared. America first!
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Old 01-26-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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When did it stop being one?
Well, to a certain extent, it still is. But they have come a long way in the last 20 years.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/mexico/gdp
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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God forbid Trump should be in the JFK role in this doomsday scenario.
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I think Mexico is thinking the same thing. Another reason there will be no foreign troops or missiles in Mexico.
Just as an aside, in the aftermath of that close call with the Cuban Missle Crisis, Kennedy made one of my favorite speeches.

"For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal." -JFK
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Mexico gets 300 billion per year... 20 billion (overestimate) for the wall... 100 billion for a 20% tariff... which means about four month long tariff... OMG, FOUR MONTHS OF TARIFFS.... ITS THE END OF THE WORLD... wall is paid for, thanks Mexico... by the way, you also killed NAFTA.. Mexico loses... US wins... /the end
Not exactly. The American consumer is the one paying the tariff and hence paying for Trump's wall.

I don't want to pay tariffs.
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Just as an aside, in the aftermath of that close call with the Cuban Missle Crisis, Kennedy made one of my favorite speeches.

"For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal." -JFK
In simple terms, nuclear fallout travels. Question is, does the Cheeto know that?
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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In simple terms, nuclear fallout travels. Question is, does the Cheeto know that?
I don't think the speech is specifically about nuclear fallout. It was meant to point out the commonality of mankind in a time when both sides thought the other was made up of monsters.
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Canada
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What makes you think Mexico can't simply replace much of that slack with China, Russia, Brazil, India, and a lot of African countries. Even European ones. That's what'd I'd do if I were the Mexican president right now.
Both Mexico and Canada have free trade agreements with the European Union. If NAFTA breaks up, I assume Canada and Mexico will arrange a bilateral free trade agreement as well.
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Old 01-26-2017, 08:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Imagine that AMLO wins the election, how far will he take his anti-US rhetoric as a backlash against Trump? Imagine the day China and Russia would be allowed to station missile silos or missile defense against US nukes on Mexican soil, or station their Navies in ports all along Mexico and patrol off our coasts? And all because a loudmouth like Trump is ruining any relationship and goodwill we had with our neighbor. Scary times to be alive. It'll be the day when we have what is tantamount to a reverse NATO, comprised of Russian and Chinese soldiers, shoring up along our border on Mexican soil, just like how we send NATO troops to the door of Russia.

Even if that doesn't happen, what else could AMLO do? He could also unleash a title wave of illegal immigrant to the US border (who, even with a wall in place, will eventually find ways across the border).
Such scared little kittens, always afraid of making another country mad. AMLO can't do much of anything. Mexico is a poor and dysfunctional country that relies heavily on the US.
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