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Old 01-29-2017, 04:21 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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When they start preaching the " ________ is the only true religion" crap or the "Our God is better than their God" BS they are most definitely equivalent and IMO to be avoided.
It's obvious you are not a fan of any religion. But Jesus Christ is a fact of human history. He lived and died. The New Testament is a testimony of his coming (which was foretold in the Old Testament) and contains the writings of the witnesses to his birth, life, and death. None of what is written is a "fairy tale" as people like you love to say. It is based on the words of Jesus Christ. You may chose not to believe. That's your choice. But what is revealed in the Bible is that God is real, there is only one God, manifest in three persons, God the Father, Jesus Christ (the Word mad flesh - God became man), and the Holy Spirit, who lives in us when we believe (indwelling).

The God of the Bible is the only true God. Deal with it.
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Old 01-29-2017, 04:29 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Virtually none of the terror attacks came from those countries he is restricting, this makes no sense at all particularly since most of the attacks came from people that were here for several years already. No ban on Saudi Arabia where most of the 9/11 terrorists originated, home to the radical Wahhabism Schools.


So desperate refugees that have been waiting for 2-3 years now need to wait another 4 months while we do exactly what differently, can anyone explain "Extreme Vetting" in detail, does anyone know the vetting process in place already. This is embarrassing to the US, sad moment and complete overreaction.
I think you are taking a very narrow view of the problem. You need to inform yourself before making such comments. So called "desperate refugees" are among the most radical element. No not all of them, but many, many are, and we have no way to determine who is and who isn't a threat to our national security. Therefore we must not allow any.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:06 AM
 
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The countries in this ban are the ones with isis strongholds...isis not 9/11 that was alqeda....not all terrorists are from the same place, thats racist!!!
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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No, all that stuff is in the Jewish Old Testament, which has nothing to do with Christianity.
Typical...Cherry pick the things you like and ignore the rest.....Is that how you picked Trump?

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Old 01-29-2017, 07:12 AM
 
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He filed a hundred pages of business info with the federal elections commission when he started his campaign. Go there if you're interested in finding out about his businesses -- of course, I know you won't do that.
Trump said, "You will learn more about Donald Trump by going down to the Federal Elections" to see the financial disclosure form than by looking at his returns.

An observer would find valuable information about Trump’s personal financial holdings from his extensive (and legally required) financial-disclosure form. However, experts consider that a red herring.

Unlike all presidential nominees since 1980, Trump has not released his tax returns, which experts say would offer valuable details on his effective tax rate, the types of taxes he paid, and how much he gave to charity, as well as a more detailed picture of his income-producing assets.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:14 AM
 
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This is about refugees. No refugees are coming from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the UAE. You can calm down now.
No, this is about the safety and security of the American citizens.

It is about protecting us from terrorists. And where have the terrorists come from? Mostly countries that are not on the list.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Planet earth
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It is just as important to talk about the countries the Muslim ban doesn't apply to. Conveniently the ones he has businesss ties in - Egypt, Saudi, UAE ....

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...t-of-interest/

So much for consistency.

I am of the opinion that the specific reason the Trump Administration chose these specific countries lies in the fact that they are very destabilized nations with very weak forms of government control. This makes it much more difficult for our nation to vet people coming from these nations. Saudi Arabia for example does NOT have a destabilized government. They have a pretty accurate paper trail on every citizen. You can bet that nation has a pretty good idea of who most of the troublemakers of that nation are, which makes that information much easier to get when we try to vet someone coming from that nation.

If you actually think about it, this really isn't that difficult to understand. It isn't rocket surgery.

But then again, that's just MY opinion, fwiw.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:18 AM
 
Location: PSL
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I'll just leave this right here...
Did President Obama ‘Ban’ Iraqi Refugees? | Heavy.com

Obama bans Muslims not a word...
Trump does it's everyone loses their mind!
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'd like Trump to ban Muslims from all countries and expel all the Muslims living here.

But he's made a good start.
Expel US citizens because of their religion.

Has a familiar ring to it, eh.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:40 AM
 
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I'll just leave this right here...
Did President Obama ‘Ban’ Iraqi Refugees? | Heavy.com

Obama bans Muslims not a word...
Trump does it's everyone loses their mind!
Fake news. Trump tells us that Obama was a founding member of ISIS. He would never ban Muslims from entering the US.

derp.
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