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So, someone who has completed the transition, had Sexual Re-assignment Surgery and looks like a woman should have to use a men's room just because they were born a man. I think someone who looks like a woman going in the men's room would be a bigger issue than her going to the women's room
A transgender is an anatomical male who "feels" like a woman, and vice versa. We're not talking about post-surgical transsexuals.
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A transgender is an anatomical male who "feels" like a woman, and vice versa. We're not talking about post-surgical transsexuals.
In a way we are. If you knew anything about the transformation process, it takes years if done correctly by ethical medical professionals. So really after about a year or two of the hormones, you truly don't look much like your anatomical sex anymore
No, we are not. Anatomical males are NOT girls just because they "feel" like it.
Again, it wasn't bathrooms that precipitated the problem, it was forcing the presence of anatomical males in girls' school gym open locker and shower rooms (and much less frequently, vice versa) that prompted the huge backlash.
As usual, SJWs pushed way too hard, and have lost some of the support they already had. They've managed to lose ground. Congrats.
Nice, the day after Trump got on TV and promised they werent going to do this.
Just watch how this works out.
Trump promised they wouldn't do this?
Make things up much?
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You do realize transgenders will continue to use whatever the heck bathroom they want to right? You can slow down the social progress of this country, but you're not going to stop it. You guys will always be on the wrong side of history and will continue to lose.
Go ahead and use the opposite sex's bathroom. You'll be arrested/beaten up if there are kids in that restroom, and those kids and their parents freak out.
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Incorrect. You believe our government functions according to the utilitarian philosophy of John Stuart Mill: "the greatest good for the greatest number." Our government does not operate like that. If it did, slavery would still be legal, segregation would still be in full force, lynching would still be acceptable, women wouldn't have the vote, and men could beat their wives and kids senseless without consequences, among many other things. Our government is concerned with human rights of the minority as well as the majority. Minorities are the targets of discrimination, not majorities, thus they require the protection of government more than majority populations.
How is it discriminating against/oppressing a guy to not let him go to the bathroom or shower with little girls?
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Typical dumb*** Trump move. He has North Korea launching missiles, people waiting for him to create the jobs he promised, and a million other serious issues, and what does he do? He worries about bathrooms ! If I were the people who trusted and voted for him, I would be livid that he is wasting his time on silly stuff, instead of doing what really needs done. He is simply incapable of focusing on important issues and worries more about how many people attended his inauguration.
What a clown.
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Why would a (supposedly) busy new admin deal with this nonsense in their first month in office? There are so many things that simply don't make sense with this administration (I am not referring to conservative policies, but priorities and conduct).
Uh, Trump and his administration aren't "doing something" about this, they're NOT doing anything about it.
They're NOT wasting their time defending Obama's stupid policy.
It was Obama who wasted time by promoting child abuse.
Until thrown out of school or wherever it is against the law
Is there going to be a genitalia scanner installed in the doorways? Or, will there be a person doing a 'patdown' to be sure someone with the wrong equipment doesn't get in? Or, will there be a DNA tester that must be done before entry (thinking, maybe like a breathalyzer?), so that those who have had the surgery...
Typical dumb*** Trump move. He has North Korea launching missiles, people waiting for him to create the jobs he promised, and a million other serious issues, and what does he do? He worries about bathrooms ! If I were the people who trusted and voted for him, I would be livid that he is wasting his time on silly stuff, instead of doing what really needs done. He is simply incapable of focusing on important issues and worries more about how many people attended his inauguration.
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No, we are not. Anatomical males are NOT girls just because they "feel" like it.
Again, it wasn't bathrooms that precipitated the problem, it was forcing the presence of anatomical males in girls' school gym open locker and shower rooms (and much less frequently, vice versa) that prompted the huge backlash.
As usual, SJWs pushed way too hard, and have lost some of the support they already had. They've managed to lose ground. Congrats.
I noticed you breezed through most of what I wrote, cherry picking what you wanted to tear me down. You've obviously never known a transgender or transsexual individual. Because if you had, you would know that it is not them being "oh, I feel like a girl" or "oh, I feel like a boy". These individuals are generally under the care of a psychiatrist who makes that call
This is ridiculous. Gender-neutral bathrooms are the only bathrooms available in my place of work. Nobody cares.
Is the key to the restroom chained to a gallon milk jug there?
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If I were the people who trusted and voted for him, I would be livid that he is wasting his time on silly stuff, instead of doing what really needs done. He is simply incapable of focusing on important issues and worries more about how many people attended his inauguration. 
