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For starters, less educated blue collar workers are the ones that have suffered most by wage stagnation and illegal immigration suppressing said wages.
Highly educated people like myself never see the downside, we just get our houses cleaned, our lawns mowed etc cheaper.
The fact that the corporations have subverted the democratic parties former allegiance to blue collar workers is appalling and that their rabid loyalists now call those people stupid, racists is the ultimate insult.
What a shameful thread. My grandparents cleaned houses, worked factory jobs, sold chicken eggs, drove trucks and tended bar to make ends meet. My parents did the same. Many of them voted democrat, some life-long....it's upsetting to read how complaining about your wages and the corporate on-shoring and off-shoring now makes you a racist.
Anyone here actually see the media spin the corporations have put on this one? ugh.
Bygone jobs huh? Plumbing, Electric, Construction, are those jobs you think will be gone? These people get tested, licensed, bonded, and it takes years of experience to get licensed. They work on your house, your businesses and if it's a crappy job or gas lines blow up they get popped for it as they should.
Illegals with no accountability do this work for half the price yes, it's a bargain, but there are no bonds, no insurance, and no way to recoup your loss if anything happens or anyone gets injured. Is that the direction you want America to go in? Illegal slave labor taking over the trades. That will come at a big cost in the long run. Not to mention no labor laws for those illegal workers, and they get treated like crap. How moral is that?
Those securities you think Hilary was going to give are a joke for the working class. They've been a joke because they only serve those who don't work and are on welfare or coming out of jail. She wasn't going to save the working class. Most Americans make an average of 50,000 a year. They can't afford to pay for anyone else, that's just a fact. They can't afford to move around the country for work either. They can't afford to take time off to train in another field. They can't afford those health premiums either.
If telling yourself that only stupid people voted for Trump makes you feel more secure then that's your lie. Here in reality there was a clear reason Trump won, if you'd take time to listen then you'd understand. Then you could encourage your party to stop ignoring half the country, stop calling them stupid and maybe have a chance next time. If Trump does half of what he says though, you won't have a chance.
Did you even read what I wrote at all?? I'm the one arguing plumbers, electricians and the like, aka, skilled trasdemen are doing well and we should be teaching more trades to young people...but keep up with the strawman argument...
IF Hillary's safety net was a joke- you must really hate Trump's total lack of any social safety net...or is it ok b/c lavishing tax cuts on the rich is ok done on the back of the working and middle class b/c......trickle down???
Bygone jobs huh? Plumbing, Electric, Construction, are those jobs you think will be gone? These people get tested, licensed, bonded, and it takes years of experience to get licensed. They work on your house, your businesses and if it's a crappy job or gas lines blow up they get popped for it as they should.
Illegals with no accountability do this work for half the price yes, it's a bargain, but there are no bonds, no insurance, and no way to recoup your loss if anything happens or anyone gets injured. Is that the direction you want America to go in? Illegal slave labor taking over the trades. That will come at a big cost in the long run. Not to mention no labor laws for those illegal workers, and they get treated like crap. How moral is that?
Those securities you think Hilary was going to give are a joke for the working class. They've been a joke because they only serve those who don't work and are on welfare or coming out of jail. She wasn't going to save the working class. Most Americans make an average of 50,000 a year. They can't afford to pay for anyone else, that's just a fact. They can't afford to move around the country for work either. They can't afford to take time off to train in another field. They can't afford those health premiums either.
If telling yourself that only stupid people voted for Trump makes you feel more secure then that's your lie. Here in reality there was a clear reason Trump won, if you'd take time to listen then you'd understand. Then you could encourage your party to stop ignoring half the country, stop calling them stupid and maybe have a chance next time. If Trump does half of what he says though, you won't have a chance.
We'll see what he does for your healthcare! I saw people at a town hall today, saying to FIX OBAMA CARE, not repeal it.
We always use licensed plumbers, electricians, etc. They do the best work!
For starters, less educated blue collar workers are the ones that have suffered most by wage stagnation and illegal immigration suppressing said wages.
Highly educated people like myself never see the downside, we just get our houses cleaned, our lawns mowed etc cheaper.
The fact that the corporations have subverted the democratic parties former allegiance to blue collar workers is appalling and that their rabid loyalists now call those people stupid, racists is the ultimate insult.
What a shameful thread. My grandparents cleaned houses, worked factory jobs, sold chicken eggs, drove trucks and tended bar to make ends meet. My parents did the same. Many of them voted democrat, some life-long....it's upsetting to read how complaining about your wages and the corporate on-shoring and off-shoring now makes you a racist.
Anyone here actually see the media spin the corporations have put on this one? ugh.
We'll see what he does for your healthcare! I saw people at a town hall today, saying to FIX OBAMA CARE, not repeal it.
We always use licensed plumbers, electricians, etc. They do the best work!
I'm good with fixing it. I voted for Obama, and wanted his public option that we didn't get. I'm not opposed to just making it affordable for hard working people. I'm glad to here you used licensed trades!
well there you go- many low skilled manufacturers and coal miners who feel it is their birthright to keep this job for life felt that instead of retraining or moving to where jobs are put that concern above all else to elect a corrupt, grossly unqualified, huckster who will line his pockets while exploiting the very people who voted him in. Why is a bygone job that aint coming back worth putting this ****** into office? The one you seemed to hate was for keeping the safety net- making sure there was money to retrain those out of work, that there was healthcare so these people out of work or struggling could keep from losing their house if they got sick, had unemployment insurance to help get by for a while....the one you voted for is working to strip away each and every one of those items...but yeah- the guy who puts his name of tall buildings and everyone in NYC knows is a ****** will be able to stem the tide of globalization and turn back economic progress to benefit a few all with his fancy hat and catchy slogan....
Why do you continually ignore the fact that it isn't just low skilled jobs that have left/are leaving?
So your one anecdotal example solves everything then?
One anecdotal example? There are WAY more than just one individual with essentially worthless advanced degrees. They "claim" to be highly educated, but society values neither their knowledge nor skills so they earn very little.
Notice how more education = higher earnings until one obtains a professional/advanced degree? Notice also how the less educated one is the more likely they are to be unemployed?
So... Why do liberals claim Trump supporters are under-educated? They earn more on average than Clinton supporters.
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