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The USA produces vast numbers of under educated, politically naive citizens. we spend lots of money educating , but very little of that education goes into teaching critical thinking skills. The result in hundreds of millions of people who vote against their own social and economic interests their entire lives. Of course they are heavily brainwashed to be fearful and thus easy to manipulate.
We have socialized fire control. socialized military , socialized education, socialized policing, socialized power systems .
Many of our systems have full price control and are NEVER used by many people.
many people will never call a fire truck or cop in their whole lives, yet they pay for them everyday, and dont call it bad.
But for some reason people in the USA have been fooled by FOX and the GOP into believing healthcare should ONLY be socialized for select groups. old people, ex socialized military people , kids and poor people.
why is Healthcare the ONLY social system we dont have? We have the same setup as other developed nations ref all other services..... but not healthcare...
The USA produces vast numbers of under educated, politically naive citizens. we spend lots of money educating , but very little of that education goes into teaching critical thinking skills. The result in hundreds of millions of people who vote against their own social and economic interests their entire lives. Of course they are heavily brainwashed to be fearful and thus easy to manipulate.
We have socialized fire control. socialized military , socialized education, socialized policing, socialized power systems .
Many of our systems have full price control and are NEVER used by many people.
many people will never call a fire truck or cop in their whole lives, yet they pay for them everyday, and dont call it bad.
But for some reason people in the USA have been fooled by FOX and the GOP into believing healthcare should ONLY be socialized for select groups. old people, ex socialized military people , kids and poor people.
why is Healthcare the ONLY social system we dont have? We have the same setup as other developed nations ref all other services..... but not healthcare...
Unfortunately, many of those uneducated people you refer to are educated to believe that anything "socialized" is socialism, and of course we are not a socialist country...
Probably a mistake to refer to these public services as "socialized" for that reason, but if/when we simply look at what serves our better purposes when we "pool" our resources rather than manage individually, the advantage of applying tax dollars toward national defense, education, law enforcement, fire-fighting and health care becomes obvious.
Essentially it is the same dynamic that applies to forms of insurance wherein we are fools to risk going it alone rather than distributing the risk over the entire pool of insured, but even simple math and basic reason is not so simple or basic for far too many people in the United States. Why we are still so far behind other advanced countries when it comes to universal access to health care coverage...
I mean I guess technically he is but I don't like the term "mentally ill" myself to describe him because it makes his behavior an excuse. I prefer ahole or at best irrational like I put down there.
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Originally Posted by Enigma777
This is worse than mentally ill or demented. It is dangerous. North Korea, Iran, ISIS is out there monitoring this crap and observing that Trump is going off the rails.
It is making us look extremely stupid, weak and vulnerable to have a 'leader' this crazy. They are looking at us the same way we look at North Korea--like how can people deal with having a leader as unhinged as Kim Jung un? Or the way we looked at Italy when Berlusconi was going off the rails.
He's unstable and mentally unbalanced. I certainly hope Pence and Ryan step in soon and get rid of him before he does something even dumber than what he is doing now. They are legally able to declare him unfit for office.
I really don't understand why they're not already. They have to be seeing his behavior as irrational because it seems to me they at least are more intelligent than he is particularly Pence. He may be bad in the social aspect but I don't see why he'd want to have someone like this as the leader of the country. From what I've observed of him he has a very level head. He probably isn't the nicest person but I don't know if he's as bad as people say he is either. Sometimes I wonder if the gay conversion therapy thing is just a misunderstanding.
Maybe there's some reason they can't but they don't seem like people who would truly be okay with his behavior. They just work for him so if he had no money I am 99 percent sure nobody would be vouching for him (aside from maybe his family but even that's not guaranteed considering the reports about Melania and him having a rift)
I know people say this is just a persona because they say in person he's pleasant but only a madman would act like this. You can't be pleasant and regularly be a jerk the same time. It doesn't correlate unless you were in a movie/TV show so it seems to me the in person him would be the fake.
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Originally Posted by hbdwihdh378y9
When you weren't paying attention, apparently, he was elected and took office as President of the United States. Most people consider that a significant achievement. It's also an achievement that literally makes him "superior" ("higher in rank, status, or quality") to millions of people who work for the executive branch (he's chief executive) and armed forces (he's commander-in-chief).
So you might want to reconsider the implications of that portion that you bolded.
He's acted like that a lot of his life apparently though so there goes the merit in your point. We just never noticed/ignored it because he was just a regular citizen.
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Originally Posted by enraeh
Are you entirely sure it's actually President Trump doing the tweets? You might be getting punked.
Little chance of that considering he acts the same on video footage.
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Originally Posted by ChiGeekGuest
The most concerning feature exhibited by So-called President is what I will call for simplicity - the paranoia feature. He has been granted more 'free passes' than any other Presidential candidate in recent history. Even so, it's not enough. He (with Bannon's apparent encouragement) has alienated all of those who've extended assistance in his transition. No one is loyal enough. Everyone is out to get him. & so on. Rational folks are quickly losing their patience.
In the end, he'll only have himself to blame.
I know and that's what makes me really angry about it. He gets all these free passes meanwhile I haven't acted anything like that and I have not caught a break at all in trying to get a job though other people have easily had the free pass to step on me.
I know it's about money though. He has money/financial status but it doesn't make it any less irritating.
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Originally Posted by Steve McDonald
I get these every now and then. Some joker uses the Reputation feature, to try to insult me, anonymously. They will never identify themselves, but their reputation marks add just as much to your count, as any.
Same as you can see I got a few of those too. I also feel like it was probably the same person.
It's kind of annoying because you can't respond back but it was also hilarious because the only comment was "you have issues". What? How is that even an insult? Esp when I have already finished implying I have issues. The only time I say someone has issues is when I'm being silly and making fun of someone I actually admire.
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Originally Posted by golgi1
My analysis of the behavior, especially when mental health terminology is used, stands.
This isn't my opinion. It's fact that non-professional use of professional mental health terminology, in regard to another, is both irresponsible and concerning.
It's a fact that making mental health accusations, as a non-professional, in regard to another is often one of the most insidious techniques of psychological abuse.
It is really? Depends on both the accuser and the accused. In this case, if anything it's putting Trump in a far better light than he deserves because it says he's not in control of his behavior like I said.
My other qualm about it is do you feel this way with just mental illness or is this true with disabilities as well? So if the OP said Trump was autistic would you have the same argument? I'm saying this because some people equate a mental illness and a disability as the same thing.
The USA produces vast numbers of under educated, politically naive citizens. we spend lots of money educating , but very little of that education goes into teaching critical thinking skills. The result in hundreds of millions of people who vote against their own social and economic interests their entire lives. Of course they are heavily brainwashed to be fearful and thus easy to manipulate.
We have socialized fire control. socialized military , socialized education, socialized policing, socialized power systems .
Many of our systems have full price control and are NEVER used by many people.
many people will never call a fire truck or cop in their whole lives, yet they pay for them everyday, and dont call it bad.
But for some reason people in the USA have been fooled by FOX and the GOP into believing healthcare should ONLY be socialized for select groups. old people, ex socialized military people , kids and poor people.
why is Healthcare the ONLY social system we dont have? We have the same setup as other developed nations ref all other services..... but not healthcare...
I think part of it is perception. I also believe that when some of us "older" folks are gone, it will change.
I am in my 50s and all throughout most of my life, health insurance premiums were very affordable and medical care in the US was phenomenal. We all pitied those poor Brits who had to wait for their care at the NHS and couldn't get their knee repaired for a year.
Then in the 90s, it started happening here. I noticed that premiums were outpacing my salary very quickly. I noticed that it was taking me 6 weeks or 3 months to even see a specialist. I noticed that doctors were having to hire huge staff to do "paperwork". My doctor didn't sit around and chat much anymore. In the last 15 years, while I do receive good care, I can't say I've been happy with my care like I used to be. Seems rushed, seems disorganized.
But yet, people still believe that we are living in a health care utopia that we had 30 years ago. It's not the same. Treatments have become very rationed. I have a fairly generous policy and even I am getting the runaround on a lot of stuff. Having claims denied and I have to fight with them to finally get them paid.
Again, people have it fixed in their head that we are still better off in the US. I don't believe we are anymore. While we still may have the brightest medical minds here, the return on what we spend is not that great.
I think we all know what "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" means...
I also think psychological abuse is another wrong-doing that should not be excused, but I'm not sure that "gaslighting" is the only explanation for why the OP chose to open this thread by calling Trump's mental health into question.
Perhaps if we can agree that "gaslighting" is wrong as well, we can agree that Trump's manner in which to discredit those he chooses to target as enemies is just as wrong. Fair? One need only search all Trump's insults to date and not only consider their nature but the number, and given that Trump is doing so from a position of power, there you have far more important reason to be critical than the time you devoted to the OP of this meaningless thread...
This is a very important thread. Mr. Trump does not seem to think before he speaks or tweets. Maybe he just does not have critical thinking skills. There are many skills needed for President and Commander in Chief.
So many of my friends and associates, voted for the man "because, he is a business man." If he were the head of an organization, with a board of directors, he would be out on his rear end. It seems to me that is what congress is, to a certain degree. Also, the 25th amendment to the Constitution.
To me, he has signs of dementia. The people looking at his actions , need to take off the rose colored glasses and DO SOMETHING.
Mr. Trump should resign, in his heart I will bet he knows, he is in way over his head. If he cares at all for our country and the world, he should step down.
Imagine all the "crazy making" and "gas-lighting" Trump's family members have to put up with. I would bet the only reason any of them stuck around was for the money. That would include his wife.
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