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Old 03-16-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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The "uniter" in the WH gets an "A" for creating division between Americans.
Getting awfully tiresome to hear that Obama was divisive and/or Trump, though of course we all have our opinions about who is more or less to blame...

Thing is though, one need only consider these threads and all those on one side vs the other, stubbornly so, and how can anyone really expect Americans to somehow come together politically speaking? Might as well be trying to get everyone to believe in one God, water to mix with oil, cats to live with dogs...
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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We are taking it back from the invaders and their allies....its going to get ugly but in the end it will be all worth it. You can thank us later when we STILL have a country that is what our founders envisioned it to be instead of a third world slum filled with trash.
Get out of your bunker much?
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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You mean between Anti American democrats and their favorite voting bloc illegal invaders.....he throws them out of the country,they lose a HUGE voting bloc....and WHEW man if he fixes the inner cities and helps black americans get back to work! Man yall are in for one hell of a ride!
Wow. Seems there are people who really do believe everything Trump says and tweets!

Illegal "invaders" have never been too inclined to vote despite what you are reading in your survival magazines. You know, where you need to register to vote...

For the most part, they just pick those vegetables on the farms, do construction or clean houses for whatever pay any American is willing to pay them, and do what they can to AVOID any registration, awareness or trouble with authorities. At ease. You can go back to your bunker now.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Oh we KNOW what you mean...but its a lie....we are taking away your meal ticket to win elections....must be horrible that you have to resort to illegals,keeping blacks on welfare and other assorted degenerates to vote democrat because Americans just don't want you!
Now you have proven two times you don't have a clue about what you are saying. It would be better of you quit lying about other peoples views. Feel free to talk about your own views, but its pathetic when you start distorting and lying about the views of other people when you don't even know who you are talking about.
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Old 03-17-2017, 06:28 AM
 
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Wow. Seems there are people who really do believe everything Trump says and tweets!

Illegal "invaders" have never been too inclined to vote despite what you are reading in your survival magazines. You know, where you need to register to vote...

For the most part, they just pick those vegetables on the farms, do construction or clean houses for whatever pay any American is willing to pay them, and do what they can to AVOID any registration, awareness or trouble with authorities. At ease. You can go back to your bunker now.

Illegals have no right to work here. Only the greedy employers benefit from them while the rest of us get the shaft. Since many states issue them driver's licenses there is evidence that at least some of them vote in our elections.
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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Illegals have no right to work here. Only the greedy employers benefit from them while the rest of us get the shaft. Since many states issue them driver's licenses there is evidence that at least some of them vote in our elections.
When I consider the negatives you are concerned about as compared to the rest of our problems, you might as well be asking me to worry about the color of a house instead of the fact that it is on fire...

Maybe it is "greedy employers" who benefit from access to an abundant inexpensive source of labor, but as I have explained more than a few times as a result of owning and operating an employment agency, a great many of these minimum wage jobs go unfilled if not filled by Hispanic Americans, legal to work in America, as I was responsible to verify. They, however, are not enough to fill all the jobs or do all the work, especially in a growing economy...

Top 20 Occupations* # of Immigrant
Workers in the US
Illegally Total # of All
Workers % of Immigrants
in the US Illegally
in Total Work Force

1. Brickmasons, blockmasons, and stonemasons 131,000 325,000 40%
2. Drywall installers, ceiling tile installers and tapers 94,000 255,000 37%
3. Roofers 76,000 246,000 31%
4. Miscellaneous agricultural workers 269,000 910,000 30%
5. Helpers, construction trades 52,000 184,000 28%
6. Dishwashers 101,000 364,000 28%
7. Construction laborers 556,000 2,055,000 27%
8. Maids and housekeepers 417,000 1,555,000 27%
9. Cement Masons, concrete finishers, and terrazzo workers 29,000 109,000 27%
10. Packaging and filling machine operators and tenders 96,000 369,000 26%
11. Grounds maintenance workers 356,000 1,413,000 25%
12. Packers and packagers, hand 119,000 504,000 24%
13. Butchers, poultry and fish processing workers 71,000 305,000 23%
14. Carpet, floor, and tile installers and finishers 68,000 306,000 22%
15. Painters, construction and maintenance 173,000 791,000 22%
16. Parking lot attendants 21,000 100,000 21%
17. Chefs and head cooks 75,000 377,000 20%
18. Sewing machine operators 49,000 248,000 20%
19. Refuse and recyclable material collectors 22,000 112,000 19%
20. Cooks 427,000 2,219,000 19%

http://immigration.procon.org/view.r...ourceID=000845

Maybe you and others don't recognize what benefit you/we gain from this labor pool, and no doubt it is more for some than others, but try getting your roof fixed or motel room cleaned or food packed or just pick from the list above and consider when and where you too have benefitted before complaining TOO much about these people filling in where others don't. Let's at least not refer to them as "rapists and murderers" to add insult to injury. Fair?

Also let me ask you. Do you know ANYONE who would like to wash dishes or pack meat or be a roofer who can't get that work? Can't or won't?
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:57 AM
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When I consider the negatives you are concerned about as compared to the rest of our problems, you might as well be asking me to worry about the color of a house instead of the fact that it is on fire...

Maybe it is "greedy employers" who benefit from access to an abundant inexpensive source of labor, but as I have explained more than a few times as a result of owning and operating an employment agency, a great many of these minimum wage jobs go unfilled if not filled by Hispanic Americans, legal to work in America, as I was responsible to verify. They, however, are not enough to fill all the jobs or do all the work, especially in a growing economy...

Top 20 Occupations* # of Immigrant
Workers in the US
Illegally Total # of All
Workers % of Immigrants
in the US Illegally
in Total Work Force

1. Brickmasons, blockmasons, and stonemasons 131,000 325,000 40%
2. Drywall installers, ceiling tile installers and tapers 94,000 255,000 37%
3. Roofers 76,000 246,000 31%
4. Miscellaneous agricultural workers 269,000 910,000 30%
5. Helpers, construction trades 52,000 184,000 28%
6. Dishwashers 101,000 364,000 28%
7. Construction laborers 556,000 2,055,000 27%
8. Maids and housekeepers 417,000 1,555,000 27%
9. Cement Masons, concrete finishers, and terrazzo workers 29,000 109,000 27%
10. Packaging and filling machine operators and tenders 96,000 369,000 26%
11. Grounds maintenance workers 356,000 1,413,000 25%
12. Packers and packagers, hand 119,000 504,000 24%
13. Butchers, poultry and fish processing workers 71,000 305,000 23%
14. Carpet, floor, and tile installers and finishers 68,000 306,000 22%
15. Painters, construction and maintenance 173,000 791,000 22%
16. Parking lot attendants 21,000 100,000 21%
17. Chefs and head cooks 75,000 377,000 20%
18. Sewing machine operators 49,000 248,000 20%
19. Refuse and recyclable material collectors 22,000 112,000 19%
20. Cooks 427,000 2,219,000 19%

Demographics of Immigrants in the United States Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org

Maybe you and others don't recognize what benefit you/we gain from this labor pool, and no doubt it is more for some than others, but try getting your roof fixed or motel room cleaned or food packed or just pick from the list above and consider when and where you too have benefitted before complaining TOO much about these people filling in where others don't.

Also let me ask you. Do you know ANYONE who would like to wash dishes or pack meat or be a roofer who can't get that work? Can't or won't?
Deport them all. Have them re-apply for a visa.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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We are so divided. Seeing more and more things like this every day. From both sides.

Trump supporters call for ‘liberal genocide’ and deportation of Jews at Arizona Rally
Propaganda hit piece, manufactured opponent, fake news.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:08 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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We are so divided. Seeing more and more things like this every day. From both sides.

Trump supporters call for ‘liberal genocide’ and deportation of Jews at Arizona Rally
We are so divided because the propaganda that different people are sprouting back and forth. Your link is the perfect example.

Most Trump supporters (or Hillary supporters for that matter) do not want to deport Jews or support a liberal (or conservative) genocide. Most people do not want to kill cops or hate America. But we live in a country of almost 320 million and you will find opinions all over the place, including some incredibly stupid and foolish ones.
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Old 03-17-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Deport them all. Have them re-apply for a visa.
Apply for a visa to dig ditches? Lay cement? Pack chicken into cans for minimum wage? Good one!

Some have been here for years, packing that chicken, with kids, family, making a living such as it is, good enough for them, working in any case, not raping anyone or murdering anyone...

"The "deport them all" crowd are considered awfully militaristic and inhumane in some respects, mostly just impractical and unthinking, ultimately pretty well ignorant about all they fear or concern themselves with when it comes to immigrants, legal or illegal.

But hey, when you've got an axe to grind no matter the justification, and someone like Trump to lead the way, we end up "cutting our nose to spite our face." How about we go after real rapists and murderers instead?
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