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Old 03-16-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Amtrak services the entire country, except for Alaska and Hawaii. It's not just a northeast rail line.

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amtrak is a money pit
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Churches run food pantries, MoW in several areas, community outreach well-check programs for the elderly/disabled shut-ins, kids' programs for at-risk youth, and so on. Why balk at donating/volunteering to help those who are less fortunate? Why so cold-hearted? Give a little, or better yet, a lot. Karmic justice, and all that.
Charities aren't a reliable means of funding nor can they handle the need of an entire nation consistently. All of this has been pointed out here. It's simply an excuse conservatives run to when they have to face the people whom they wish to cut funding to for vital services.
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Old 03-16-2017, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Meals on wheels should be locally funded.
Your local MoW would be thrilled for your personal donation of your time, energy, gas and money.

They also likely would welcome your unpaid effort to fund raise on their behalf.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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A " should be" is meaningless unless you personally commit to an " I will be".
That's my point. Over and over and over again, we hear how the Fed Gov should do and pay for "this" and "that" from the left. Rarely, if ever, do any of them admit that they themselves have dropped the ball and suggest that they, their friends, and their community members should be donating/volunteering more to help meet their neighbors' needs. /SMH
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Or your husband could have paid for her meal. Why should my family have to?


Seriously....our church and our town sponsored meals on wheels (& I guess they got some money from the Feds). Both my wife and my teen age daughter volunteered (my wife for over a decade). If the Feds stop giving the program money, they can get it elsewhere...or perhaps MOW will be picked up or moved elsewhere?

I'm all for taking a hatchet to EPA & Amtrak. I'd be fine with eliminating 90% of HUD (& 90% of the Dept. of Education), shut them down and move the remaining semi-essential 10% of the departments into other agencies. (Treasury or Interior?).

Hmm, the article came from the "NY Times". Are they still in business?
You are questioning media reporting of the facts of the proposed budget?
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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That's never going to happen and you know it. Stop propagating Trump's lies. It's funny how you guys keep cheering him on while at the time knowing he's lying to you. Or perhaps you refuse to accept the truth?
trump isn't lying...

his budget proposal cuts foreign aid.... which is what most americans want


but you are correct..it wont happen, because most of the globalist liberals and republicans congress critters will never pass something that cuts foreign aid
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Churches run food pantries, MoW in several areas, community outreach well-check programs for the elderly/disabled shut-ins, kids' programs for at-risk youth, and so on. Why balk at donating/volunteering to help those who are less fortunate? Why so cold-hearted? Give a little, or better yet, a lot. Karmic justice, and all that.
Churches also have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason if they so choose. Another mark against your "charities can solve all of our problems" idea.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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You DO have the proper user name,"fragile".

And I would add immature but, that is not allowed on here.
The irony is fierce with this one.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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Meals on Wheels helps keep people out of the nursing homes and that saves a lot of money for the system. In my state the recipients pay for the meals on a sliding scale from $2 to $4 dollars and the drivers are all volunteers. How much can the program really cost? What a mean, small-minded of person wants to cut something like Meals on Wheels for homebound elderly and disabled people?
"How much can the program really cost?"

By the time you add the usual HIGH admin cost the fed ALWAYS has, probably a lot.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:07 PM
 
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Read about this recently. It is sad they are cutting these programs. For many seniors they really do need those meals.

I used to work for a contractor that provided HUD funded senior/disabled housing. Many of our residents lived on less than $800 a month and could not afford to buy food after paying for medicines and other medical care needs. They heavily depended on Meals on Wheels.

I also wonder if they will be cutting the summer food programs that are in local school districts and HUD public housing locations. Many school children in the summer do not get a meal everyday like they would with school breakfast and lunch.

One of my last housing jobs we had a person who worked for the summer food program who prepared and served the kids and she used to go on and on about how "bad" the kids were but she thought the parents were worse because those kids really didn't have any food to eat and due to being public housing residents, she knew their parents had foodstamps. She did and still does her best every summer to teach the kids some manners and how to eat(some didn't know how to cut food or eat with a fork because they didn't use silverware or eat food that required utensils at home). Many of the kids would be lined up for breakfast at 7am in summer and would tell her how they hadn't eaten anything since lunch the day before. She figured that was why many of them acted so "bad." They were hungry.

Hope all of you who voted for Trump has elderly people in your own family/neighborhood who will suffer due to this. I am a "you get what you vote for" type of person and honestly my main "gripe" with Trump is that he is a horrible person, personality-wise who cares more about money and "winning" than real people.

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Let churches and private organizations kick in some assistance to replace whatever MFW loses.
My church is running a program over the summer to help kids get meals.
Think outside the box.
FYI - your church probaby gets money from this grant to run their program. Churches in my area, including my mom's church runs this program for kids/elderly too and it is funded via a community block grant provided to them via our city government. The city got the grant from HUD.
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