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Hillary has had more contact with Russia than Trump. You've got leaders & elite around the world who were screwed out of billions in donations for influence and they aren't happy.
Hillary has had more contact with Russia than Trump. You've got leaders & elite around the world who were screwed out of billions in donations for influence and they aren't happy.
Ain't that the truth.
They made a bad investment and now they want to make good on it.
For example, Clinton Foundation. Hillary disclosed the foundation and sources of funding during her Senate Confirmation Hearing. Nonetheless, all but one confirmed her. It was a non -issue until she declared her intention to run. Then and only then was it a useful tool to use against her. The Foundation should have been closed when she wan nominated to be Secretary to avoid creating the perception of a conflict of interest.
Another example. The email deal, a story that the NYT broke. She did not want to carry multiple devices so somehow it made sense to her staff to put a server in her home or where ever it was located. This was an organizational failure.
We'll never know what was in the 30,000 emails that were scrubbed beyond something she preferred not to have been made public. Really stupid.
And then there's Bill's meeting with the DoJ while Hillary was being investigated. He did not attempt to hide the meeting and apparently did not consider it created a perception of a conflict of interest. What they discussed might have been innocent. If it was anything else, he could have called her rather than drawing public attention to a meeting. Just stupid.
Having said this, she likely would have won if her opponent had been anyone other than Trump.
Einstein...Hillary lost due to a variety of factors. If she had campaigned better she would have won, theres significant evidence that Comey cost her, but I could go on.
LOTS of different factors made the difference. If comey hadnt pulled his nonsense she would have won. If Russia hadnt influenced things-she would have won......unless....if Trump had X, Y, or Z would have prevented it.
Reality is, she lost, and she lost by people casting votes. PERIOD. We can argue whatifs, but theres no SINGLE reason she lost.
Hillary lost because the Left abandoned the middle class that they used to champion in favor of illegal aliens and anyone who wasn't a straight white male.
Hillary lost because rather than eschewing the race based identity politics of the Obama administration... she doubled down on it.
Hillary lost because she had no positive message or plan for America and spent her whole campaign trashing Trump and anyone who held Conservative values.
Hillary lost because she was the worst, most corrupt candidate in history.
Hillary lost because (like most Liberals) that she was somehow entitled to it.
Hillary lost because the Left abandoned the middle class that they used to champion in favor of illegal aliens and anyone who wasn't a straight white male.
Hillary lost because rather than eschewing the race based identity politics of the Obama administration... she doubled down on it.
Hillary lost because she had no positive message or plan for America and spent her whole campaign trashing Trump and anyone who held Conservative values.
Hillary lost because she was the worst, most corrupt candidate in history.
Hillary lost because (like most Liberals) that she was somehow entitled to it.
Didn't she literally go around saying "it's my turn now"?
I agree with this BTW. Identity politics, calling half of America deplorables, and her campaign ....didn't even have a real plan or message. It was just "I'm experienced...and.....Donald Trump is a sexist!"
Since no one mentioned the fact that she called anyone that didn't support her deplorable. I mean how stupid was that? When you are campaigning you are suppose to get people on your side not call the people on the other side deplorable. I think that was the nail in the coffin for her.
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But do you have a right to be offended by comments? It's either you have no right to be offended or you have a right to be offended. You have to have it one way.
Spoiler
Then again if the right are offended and think the left shouldn't complain about being offended, isn't that just the same thing?
Nobody said that you don't have a right to be offended.
It's that you don't have a right to not be offended.
In short, others 1st amendment rights don't end where your feelings begin.
So....be offended all you want.
Just don't expect anyone to give a wet slap about it.
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It's either you have no right to be offended or you have a right to be offended. You have to have it one way.
