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Old 03-21-2017, 08:45 AM
 
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I get condemned all the time for voting Stein because I will no longer vote for the Bush/Obama/Clinton cartel. I'm not so sure her support for Trump is sound but I understand one taking the chance over the alternative.

Unfortunately, and it is very early, it doesn't appear to be paying off. Even if it doesn't it won't make the alternative of the Bush/Obama/Clinton cartel the right choice.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: NC
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Truth told.

Seems to be repeated here day after day by the deranged who parrot the MSM without any question at all.

It's also why they were shocked on Nov 8th and continue to be shocked when Trump fills an Arena or Venue completely. They simply don't get it.

https://twitter.com/therealroseanne/...18091914375169
So what is your take on when Reality TV Star and Real Estate Mogul (and now POTUS) Donald Trump repeatedly attacked the sitting POTUS? Was that too an attack on Americans who rejected Bush-Clinton-Bush-Reagan?


Are you OK with all the attacks? With none of the attacks? Or just the ones that support your Point of View?
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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And the popularity of a scripted reality TV show IS relevant to his quality as a man and/or POTUS?
Nope. And there you go again, attempting to move the goalpost when your own words come back to haunt you. You said....
But many have observed Trump in action for 35+ years and formed a poor opinion of him as a man
His very popular TV show proves you wrong on this.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:49 AM
 
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I suggest they do. The name calling didn't start until he decided to run against Hillary Clinton.
People have been calling Trump a misogynistic, racist pig for decades. He has been tabloid fodder and one of the least liked, least respected people in America for a long time. ....And not just Rosie O'Donnel.

Don't make up fake facts. Just because your POTUS does it does not make it right or acceptable.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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But it is cute to see the right, the group that for years has whined about the 'Hollywood' crowd, suddenly take that very same crowd seriously. Funny how the width of their brush can vary so raidcak=lly when painting the very same thing.
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...despite some reports, she has not endorsed Donald Trump.

Instead, she is coming out in support of her own candidacy.

"I will be writing myself in in every election from now until I win," she said. "I don't endorse."

The documentary "Roseanne for President!" is in theaters and on demand starting Friday. It traces her 2012 third-party run for the highest office in the land.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/01/entert...ump/index.html
Whichever way the wind blows as long as she garners some attention for herself.

Besides, who really cares what Barr says. She's as relevant as Scott Baio. And won't it be grand when we can revisit their support after all the **** hits the fan and it is revealed that he colluded with a foreign entity to screw over our elections and our democratic system.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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People have been calling Trump a misogynistic, racist pig for decades. He has been tabloid fodder and one of the least liked, least respected people in America for a long time. ....And not just Rosie O'Donnel.

Don't make up fake facts. Just because your POTUS does it does not make it right or acceptable.
You are right......he has been called all of these things. He is many of them. People still picked him over Hillary. Even after being all these things, people still wanted him (outside of California) more than Hillary.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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More American voters voted for Hillary than Trump.
And 2 Million more voters in CA and NY could have voted for Hillary and it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference. You can't cater to a few states and expect to win states you ignored.

Just as people I know n NY, who voted for Trump, their vote never makes a damn bit of difference. I live in a blue state that went red, my vote for a R in prior elections didn't make a difference. We just had the sense to accept what was.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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More American voters voted for Hillary than Trump. That is a fact, but feel free to believe Trumps lies if it makes you feel better. His lies are too many to count, and yet some insist on believing them. Go figure.

Personally I voted for 3rd party, so I rejected both, and no, I do not feel people attack me when they call Trump an idiot. When people call the POS-TUS an idiot, they are merely stating a fact.
It's not about my "belief". It's clear enough that Hillary and Trump did not run a race to win the popular vote. But for some reason you think it's important vote total in California matter. I simply address that.

Now if you care to argue that Hillary ran a race to win the popular vote, then this only speaks about Hillary Clinton. Personally I think she has more sense than that, but if you think otherwise that is your concern. It's not part of this topic.

Finally if you voted 3rd party, then it's obvious that you agree with Barr. i.e. Obama/Clinton/Bush was horrible for the USA. I don't see why you can't believe that Trump voters think the same thing.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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It does but when you hear people that were in that pool of 1,000 but do not answer because they think polling is rigged, it don't help unrig it. It actually makes it more rigged. I know Trump supporters who did this. They made it look like Arizona was actually in play for Clinton.
I have always refused to do polls. Why? It is none of their *beep* business.

Aside from that, too many polls are push polls, where they word questions to get a specific response, and the hope is that folks sitting on the fence will say to themselves upon seeing the results, "Well, if everyone else believes ABC, that must right....". As of late, this is very frequently be done in reference to immigration reform and deportation.

I do hope one positive outcome of this crazy presidential election/tenure is that political polls will lose their power to drive elections and policy.
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Old 03-21-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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So what is your take on when Reality TV Star and Real Estate Mogul (and now POTUS) Donald Trump repeatedly attacked the sitting POTUS? Was that too an attack on Americans who rejected Bush-Clinton-Bush-Reagan?


Are you OK with all the attacks? With none of the attacks? Or just the ones that support your Point of View?
Doesn't matter to me their background. This is why I stopped listening to Democrats and their "identity" politics. What does matter to me is their message. If you would like for me to address this, then please feel free to ask again.
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