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Old 03-22-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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Yet another irresponsible gun owner.

And no I'm not anti gun, I own a firearm myself, so zip it in that regards.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-mo...030634526.html

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PHOENIX (AP) — A 9-year-old boy shot in the head by his 2-year-old brother with their mother's handgun died Tuesday, and their mother told police she had previously let the toddler handle the gun when it wasn't loaded, authorities said.

The mother, Wendy Lavarnia, 28, told police she had put her loaded gun on a bed within reach of her 2-year-old and 4-year-old sons while she turned to get a holster, according to court records. That's when the 2-year-old grabbed the gun and shot her 9-year-old son, who was playing video games a few feet away, police said.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:32 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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An she's going to burn for this. Are you suggesting there's something more in terms of laws and regulations that needs doing that would have prevented this? There are already such laws and regulations in place (all of which she totally flaunted) and now she knows just why those laws and rules are there. She sure can't claim ignorance as a defense, as if it would fly in any regard.


Yes, obviously she was an irresponsible gun owner. They are out there. They do exist. So I'm just curious, is there a discussion point here?
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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A moment of inattention, with tragic consequences.
The teaching of gun handling was not irresponsible. Not continuing the teaching was. The child should have been allowed to actually fire the gun (in a safe environment), so he would know more than the fact that nothing happens when the gun is dry fired. He was not taught about loaded guns! THAT, IMO, was the failure!
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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As a gun owner and parent this makes my blood boil. Why would you EVER feel the need to let a two-year-old handle a gun? And as for loaded/unloaded; a gun is ALWAYS loaded, dumb *****.


(To clarify, even when the gun technically isn't loaded you always treat it as if it were. It's one of the most basic rules of gun safety.)
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:38 AM
 
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A moment of inattention, with tragic consequences.
The teaching of gun handling was not irresponsible. Not continuing the teaching was. The child should have been allowed to actually fire the gun (in a safe environment), so he would know more than the fact that nothing happens when the gun is dry fired. He was not taught about loaded guns! THAT, IMO, was the failure!
A 2-year old?
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:41 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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A TWO YEAR OLD?????

I know some people aren't going to like this but IMO I don't think kids under the age of 10 or so have the maturity to safely handle a firearm, and even 10 is pushing it. I think high school age (13/14) minimum would be more appropriate.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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A 2-year old?
Way too young. My personal opinion is that kids shouldn't handle guns until they understand that guns can kill, and that dead means forever. That said, I made my kids take a safety course when they were 5, 7, and 8. They weren't allowed to actually shoot until they were older.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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A sad and tragic event.

I'm not sure what is controversial about this though. A horrible parent resulted in a dead child. We have that problem across the board daily.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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Yet another irresponsible gun owner.

And no I'm not anti gun, I own a firearm myself, so zip it in that regards.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-mo...030634526.html
I don't understand why parents are not held responsible for this. In my area, I can't tell you how many times this has happened and they always drop the charges against the parents "because they've suffered enough".
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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A TWO YEAR OLD?????

I know some people aren't going to like this but IMO I don't think kids under the age of 10 or so have the maturity to safely handle a firearm, and even 10 is pushing it. I think high school age (13/14) minimum would be more appropriate.

Who's to say ? Some 10 year olds are more mature then a 17 year old. It is a tough call for sure.



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