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Old 04-02-2017, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The back ground information coming out on his staff and ex-staff really starting to sink home.

The draining of the swamp, it turns out, has not happened. His staff has a large problem with Russian contacts and payments. As well as failure to disclose those conflicts. He has people with large banks, which its turns out were involved with money laundering for the Russian's, in their back grounds.

So far the legislation he has passed and signed are against the rights and values of the people who voted for him. Typical Gas Oil Party policies which only help the bottom line of the corporations they help and will not lead to large scale job creation.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Yes it was very "presidential" the way Obama took American troops out of Iraq to make way for ISIS recruitment. Its only the biggest mistake in world history.
l.
You are referring to the Bush Admin's Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA ) with Iraq. This agreement compelled the withdrawal of S troops begining in 2008 and to conclude in 2011.

Iraq was not open to an extension. Obama Admin honored the agreement. Guess the US could have continued to occupy Iraq in violation of the agreement.

The Iraq War cost the US $6 Trillion when interest on debt and VA benefits are factored in.

The current VP and DoJ voted in favor of the 2002 Iraq War Resolution back when it was sold to Congress as a no more than 5 month initiative.

Some people might be inclined to say invading Iraq was one of the biggest mistakes in world history.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Is that jockstrap filled with some of the $9 Trillion dollars that he borrowed over the past 8 years?
You may want to consult your tax-and-spend Republican congress since they controlled the power of the purse 6 out of his 8 years.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The back ground information coming out on his staff and ex-staff really starting to sink home.

The draining of the swamp, it turns out, has not happened. His staff has a large problem with Russian contacts and payments. As well as failure to disclose those conflicts. He has people with large banks, which its turns out were involved with money laundering for the Russian's, in their back grounds.

So far the legislation he has passed and signed are against the rights and values of the people who voted for him. Typical Gas Oil Party policies which only help the bottom line of the corporations they help and will not lead to large scale job creation.
Under Obama, we had the Energy Secretary, Dr. Steven Chu, UC Berkeley professor and director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. Under Trump. Rick Perry.

Trump has for Ed Scy, Betsy DeVos, Chairwoman of Michigan Republican Party; founder of charter advocacy organization Great Lakes Education Project; founder of Dick & Betsy DeVos Family Foundation

Obama had, Arne Duncan, Superintendent of Chicago Public Schools

Trump has Scott Pruitt, Attorney general of Oklahoma, who is a shill for the fossil fuel industry

Obama had, Lisa P. Jackson, New Jersey commissioner of Environmental Protection

Trump's Commerce Secretary is Wilbur Ross, Chairman and chief strategist of investment firm WL Ross & Co. He previously was vice-chairman of the Bank Of Cyprus -- where Paul Manford laundered Russian money.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:24 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Isn't it obvious to everybody (except devout trumpettes) by now that Trump is hopelessly out of his depth? The guy doesn't have the chops for the job. Smart he is not.
So true. What did he think being president was going to be like? It's not all glitz, glamour, and cameras; it is work, hard work, and the POTUS feels the literal weight of the world on his shoulders no matter what decision he makes about anything. He had no clue what he was signing up for. I think he truly believed it would be just like TV; maybe even just like his TV show. Every command of his would be followed blindly to the letter and he didn't need to do any personal research about any of his choices. He will attempt to fake his way through, but unless he develops a big dose of humility and listening skills he will ultimately not learn much from all his mistakes.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Is that jockstrap filled with some of the $9 Trillion dollars that he borrowed over the past 8 years?
As sandsthetime suggested, inner peace can be found looking inward. The Republican House and Senate could had any time decided to raise taxes or cut spending.

But you know what? When Obama took office in 2009, tax revenue was down $500 billion a year and without passing any new legislation on the matter, more people were applying for unemployment benefits, Medicaid and Food Stamps. That's what your government does responding to a near depression.

What should Obama have done? Should he have cut off spending just when unemployed Americans need that help? Or, maybe he should have asked the Congress to raise taxes? Which is something one isn't supposed to do in a recession.

Ahhh, but your comment isn't to air policy alternatives. Your remark's purpose is really just to blame Obama for debt -- even though he righted the economy.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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The guy I watched flee the Oval Office isn't the same guy now as he was then. He looked like he was diving for shelter like someone who just saw the guns come out in a bar room.
You mean the below video? Yep, you are right.

The WH organized the public signing of the exec orders in an attempt to deflect Russiagate. Trump couldn't even sit at the desk for 1-2 minutes and sign the executive orders.

Instead, he said a few words at the podium and then he made a bee line to A SAFE ROOM. President Snowflake needed a safe room and Pence brought the papers to the safe room for the signing, even though the WH planned the signing to be in front of the cameras. Trump couldn't even handle a public signing planned by the WH. That's extremely weak - running away to a safe room.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lynn/99909002/
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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You are referring to the Bush Admin's Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA ) with Iraq. This agreement compelled the withdrawal of S troops begining in 2008 and to conclude in 2011.

Iraq was not open to an extension. Obama Admin honored the agreement. Guess the US could have continued to occupy Iraq in violation of the agreement.

The Iraq War cost the US $6 Trillion when interest on debt and VA benefits are factored in.

The current VP and DoJ voted in favor of the 2002 Iraq War Resolution back when it was sold to Congress as a no more than 5 month initiative.

Some people might be inclined to say invading Iraq was one of the biggest mistakes in world history.
A voice of logic and reason in the wilderness of the .................think you'll be heard?

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Old 04-02-2017, 07:39 AM
 
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I have to chuckle when people trot out Obama's cabinet appointments in defense of his administration. All they succeeded in doing is failing on education, increasing regulations, running up debt, hurting business and promoting fake science to fit their agenda. The internal feedback loop in DC needed to be shook-up and that is what Trump is doing. Some people seem to feel that government is supposed to do all the stuff they are doing - they are not. As long as Trump is cutting the size of govt. and eliminating waste in DC - he has a huge target on his back from anyone who relies on that gravy train to continue.

April is going to very interesting and if you are a law abiding American and conservative - you might want to invest in some earplugs to drown-out the wining from the left. You ain't heard nothing yet.
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Old 04-02-2017, 07:43 AM
 
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You mean the below video? Yep, you are right.

The WH organized the public signing of the exec orders in an attempt to deflect Russiagate. Trump couldn't even sit at the desk for 1-2 minutes and sign the executive orders.

Instead, he said a few words at the podium and then he made a bee line to A SAFE ROOM. President Snowflake needed a safe room and Pence brought the papers to the safe room for the signing, even though the WH planned the signing to be in front of the cameras. Trump couldn't even handle a public signing planned by the WH. That's extremely weak - running away to a safe room.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...lynn/99909002/
Looking closely even reveals a couple of brief smirks on the faces of those standing behind Trump as in "now you see what we're dealing with?"

They're actually reduced to finally looking downward at the floor in abject embarrassment at their boss's childish antics.

Talented people shouldn't be wasted in such a futile endeavour of serving a buffoon.
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