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Old 04-25-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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fun fact. Approx 99% of the 9th districts decisions match or are the final decision. That is a FACT.
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In English, por favor?
Of all cases tried very few go to the Supreme Court and when they do the SC at least sometimes agrees with the lower court so most of the time the 9th (10th, 7th, 1st etc) make the final decision.

The SC only hears 80 cases per year but gets 7,000 requests. This might be one of those cases eventually and with a conservative majority could be overturned.

 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:37 PM
 
Location: FL
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The thing that can be done that will have the largest impact is to start raiding and fining businesses that hire illegals.

When do you suppose Trump will start? This is why I do not care for him. He refuses to do his job and wants others to do it for him.
I agree and it will be a lot cheaper than the stupid wall.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:38 PM
 
Location: At mah house
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It might be if that is what they are doing but they are not. The Feds can come and pick up every illegal they can find in any of these cities. No one is stopping them.
No one is stopping these cities from raising taxes to fund their local governments, either. It's one thing if they can't or don't enforce immigration policy, but sanctuary cities are actively going to ignore that aspect of the law, if not outright undermine it. They're cherry-picking when they want to be federalists.



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Until they have their day in court they are no different than anyone else in the eyes of the law.
If they're not legal U.S. citizens, and yet they're living here, they're here illegally. It doesn't take a trial to determine that.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: FL
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Are Trumpies tired of winning yet?
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Trump did not have a leg to stand on with his EO. As the judge said, Congress says who gets the money, not the President. If Congress wants to attach strings and qualifications for federal bucks, they can do that. Trump can't.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:49 PM
 
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They said that the state had standing because they suffered a harm, because some interns and prospective employees were delayed in getting to a state university. There are reaches. Then there are reeeeeeaaaaaaaches. Then there's that.
Not really. Even the insinuation of it has harmed schools,with overseas students declining. Standing wasn't a difficult part here for folks.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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When these sanctuary cities have an earthquake, who care more about illegals rights instead of Tax Paying Americans rights, let them ask Mexico for help.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The idea of sanctuary cities is flawed. What truly makes a city a "sanctuary city"? Is it a city with the perception that they help illegal immigrants or is it actually metric-based? Also how can you legally find illegal immigrants who are not pulled over for police or involved in accidents? Otherwise it is a constitutional issue.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:58 PM
 
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Not really. Even the insinuation of it has harmed schools,with overseas students declining. Standing wasn't a difficult part here for folks.
No, it's a ridiculous reach. How has the school been harmed, exactly? Yeah, I'm sure that Somalians not being able to come to the school for three months will cause the place to shut down. And how does that show that the state has been harmed?

The judges wanted to uphold the restraining order so they just put together some silly mess. You know it, they know it, and I know it. But the ends justify the means, of course.
 
Old 04-25-2017, 06:58 PM
 
Location: FL
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And how is that "clear," exactly?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...g-the-us-video
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