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Old 05-02-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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Okay, you didn't mention chaos. You equated the 1% chocolate milk instead of the 0% chocolate milk to "terrible junk food."

It's a crass exaggeration, but you're right, you didn't mention chaos.
I never once mentioned chocolate milk. The reply was very much in regards to the suggestion that the kids don't like the food that they're being given because it's too healthy (i.e. it's ending up in the trash). The solution to that is NOT to turn around and give them other things that they would rather eat (candy, junk food, etc.).

For what it is worth, I don't really agree with giving kids chocolate milk, anyway. At least not the kind that is served in schools.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:29 PM
 
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Heaven forbid we serve salads, fresh fruit not drowning in syrup, and food other than cheap, highly processed carbohydrates.


If kids had their way I'm sure they'd choose to eat ice cream, French fries and pizza everyday and guzzle it down with their extra large colas that have more sugar than 4 doughnuts.

And the Cons would complain about having to spend money on millions of people who are diabetic or get the myriad of other diseases caused by obesity.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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This is what the Republican Party is bragging about as if it is a success:

"The problem of childhood obesity in the United States has grown considerably in recent years. Approximately 12.7 million, or 17 percent, of children and adolescents are obese. Obesity is among the easiest medical conditions to recognize but most difficult to treat. Unhealthy weight gain due to poor diet and lack of exercise is responsible for over 300,000 deaths each year."

https://www.aacap.org/AACAP/Families...Teens-079.aspx
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:31 PM
 
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Heaven forbid we serve salads, fresh fruit not drowning in syrup, and food other than cheap, highly processed carbohydrates.


If kids had their way I'm sure they'd choose to eat ice cream, French fries and pizza everyday and guzzle it down with their extra large colas that have more sugar than 4 doughnuts.

And the Cons would complain about having to spend money on millions of people who are diabetic or get the myriad of other diseases caused by obesity.
So very true!
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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How much sugar is in the chocolate milk? How much sodium is in the chocolate milk? Multiply that by all the school days and all the food items and the result is increased obesity. It's not one chocolate or strawberry milk. Kids are in school for 13 years before college and it all adds up, day after day, while Republicans are screaming that it's just a chocolate milk, the kids keep getting fatter. Further, those are formative years. A child conditioned to drink chocolate and strawberry milk, non-fiber bread, fewer vegetables, etc. will continue those food habits all their lives, resulting in the now 38% obesity rate for adults.
Almost certainly less sugars, sodium (being water soluble) too.

Milk carries most of its sugars (lactose) and minerals in the non-fat portion, if there is only 20 calories difference then sucrose in 1% must be lower to retain only 20 calories higher. Further 1% will be naturally higher in fat soluble vitamins and minerals.

Fat was the enemy of the 1990's however food science and nutrition have advanced in the last 20 years to determine that fats are very complex and have significant health benefits. Low fat diets are not necessarily healthy, and higher fat diets are not necessarily unhealthy.

You are easily confused with a member of the avarian family with concerns about the elevation of the sky.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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The solution to that is NOT to turn around and give them other things that they would rather eat (candy, junk food, etc.).
Who said anything about candy and junk food?
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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This is what the Republican Party is bragging about as if it is a success:

"The problem of childhood obesity in the United States has grown considerably in recent years. Approximately 12.7 million, or 17 percent, of children and adolescents are obese. Obesity is among the easiest medical conditions to recognize but most difficult to treat. Unhealthy weight gain due to poor diet and lack of exercise is responsible for over 300,000 deaths each year."
You should be happy! You now have your justification to lay that phenomenon at the feet of the entire Republican Party. Rhetorical tools FTW!
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:33 PM
 
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Yep, this is where we are as a country that a segment of the population will argue that veggies and fresh fruit are bad for children, just so they can disagree with the other side.
I say f-it why dont we let private companies handle the lunch, Checkers or Rally they can sell 2 quarterpounders for a dollar, I will pack lunch for my kids and let them order uber.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:34 PM
 
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Almost certainly less sugars, sodium (being water soluble) too.

Milk carries most of its sugars (lactose) and minerals in the non-fat portion, if there is only 20 calories difference then sucrose in 1% must be lower to retain only 20 calories higher. Further 1% will be naturally higher in fat soluble vitamins and minerals.

Fat was the enemy of the 1990's however food science and nutrition have advanced in the last 20 years to determine that fats are very complex and have significant health benefits. Low fat diets are not necessarily healthy, and higher fat diets are not necessarily unhealthy.

You are easily confused with a member of the avarian family with concerns about the elevation of the sky.
Yes, some fats are good but not all fats. And the previous guidelines included whole wheat bread, etc. These were not terrible things but leave it to Republicans to want to make school lunches less healthy.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:35 PM
 
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Who said anything about candy and junk food?
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The reply was very much in regards to the suggestion that the kids don't like the food that they're being given because it's too healthy (i.e. it's ending up in the trash). The solution to that is NOT to turn around and give them other things that they would rather eat (candy, junk food, etc.).
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There is a slippery slope here, and we should be encouraging them to eat better, not worse.
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