Do you hate the rich? Here are some options for you... (Congress, Obama)

[burdell]

Originally Posted by petch751

That's your problem, you don't understand that both investors (the rich) play an important part in society and in your eyes acknowledging they do to you is worshiping.

Oh please! Spare us the altruistic claptrap that investors are investing from the goodness in their hearts and not because they expect something in return. It's a symbiotic relationship, how would the rich grow their wealth with no where to invest it?

[Alonso_Castillo]

[petch751]

Originally Posted by burdell

oh please! Spare us the altruistic claptrap that investors are investing from the goodness in their hearts and not because they expect something in return. It's a symbiotic relationship, how would the rich grow their wealth with no where to invest it?

No kidding! That's the fricken point! ding... ding... ding... ding.... we have a winner!

But the left likes to constantly attack the rich so you'll support higher taxes and who wins? Government, because they've gained your support of raising taxes on the very people who provide jobs, services and products you want.

[foundapeanut]

Originally Posted by ottomobeale

I dont hate anyone. Im tired of SOME rich being destructive, creating private profit and socialized costs, also so called rentier situations.

Quite possible yet another extension of copyright in 2018.

What! Extension. That law is never going away or people wouldn't create things. That is someone's property.

Were you stealing music on the internet?

I agree with most of who you posted. But you don't need to buy music or books. They aren't life's musts.

But people do need to buy epi pens.

[Alonso_Castillo]

Originally Posted by petch751

Trying? Why not just do it?

Then again, if you minimize you will be better off. The next time you see an advertisement where an actress is crawling all over a man and if you buy the cologne she's advertising and women like her will be crawling all over you, resist. She's making big money convincing you to part with your money.

I am building my house without Mortgages, while my house is being built I am renting an apartment. once I am in my new house I will put some chicken and some fruit trees for having food from my backyard and not 100% from the market.


I never buy Brands. I usually buy cheap classic cut clothes

[moneill]

Originally Posted by petch751

No one said anything about being a reliable measure of someone's worth. I am bringing attention to what they contribute to society. Some people (the left) are so blinded by their jealousy and hate for other people who are successful and as a result become rich, they can't see that even the basic things they take for granted are a result of their contributions.

It isn't jealousy and hate -- that's your emotional input into the argument. There may be some socially motivated that resent rich people who want more more more at the expense of the poor.....it is true. But I would argue that is a very small percentage of the left leaning crowd.

I'm all about a capitalist economy. I like the idea of having the opportunity to make a really good life for myself -- however I define that -- for some it is a big house, for others it's a small, less materialistic lifestyle...whatever...I like the choice.

BUT I'm struggling. I want lower health care costs & access to good care for myself but not at the expense of someone not being able to have basic decent health care (not talking emergency care -- day to day care).

I'm not jealous or hate rich people..but I do struggle that while wages have plateaued for most people -- CEO's are still seeing huge percentage increases in their compensation...indicating they are taking more and more and more and more out of the company while not truly compensating their employees based on profit.

Not a whole lot of jealousy and hate for Trump like people. Nope. I like a good comfortable life -- but I don't NEED gold fixtures and spending thousands of dollars on a purse or shoes. Who cares.

I think some on the right like to think left leaning people are jealous and hateful because they don't want to process that it might be that those left leaning people are being a little more compassionate, a little more caring than the right.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by Alonso_Castillo

I am building my house without Mortgages, while my house is being built I am renting an apartment. once I am in my new house I will put some chicken and some fruit trees for having food from my backyard and not from the market.


I never buy Brands. I usually buy cheap classic cut clothes

Be careful, the right calls it Going Galt to which the left had a good laugh over.

But good for you, but what else are you going to grow and raise to eat? Are you going to live in a log cabin and chopping the wood to build the house. Will you be burning firewood for heat in the winter and lighting the house by oil lamps.

I'm not laughing at you, but then again, I did have to point out that you'll still depend on others. By the way, I also downsized and not buying into the commercialism, not out of hate but for my own financial freedom.

[somebodynew]

Originally Posted by don1945

They earned it, and in America, that is what most of us strive for.

Really??? That is what we strive for? That's disgusting.

[wanderlust76]

Originally Posted by petch751

- The interest you pay on debt is someone else's income.
- When you buy a product, a portion of that money becomes someone else's income.
- When you pay for a service (ex: internet) a portion of that money becomes someone else's income.
- When you work, you exchange your time for money, they invest their money to produce profit

Since people hate the rich so much they should stop using debt and stop buying their products or services and in a renters case don't rent from them.

People hate the rich because workers aren't making what they should make if you factor in productivity and what workers made back in 1980, adjusting for inflation, and the cost of living.

If the US is so great why are American worker wages falling behind the rest of the first world countries? Why have the top 1 percent seen almost all of the economic gains?

Originally Posted by don1945

Who hates the rich ? They earned it, and in America, that is what most of us strive for. Personally, I have worked side by side with a lot of multimillionaires over the years, and liked most of them a lot.

Correct, by taking advantage of the corporate capitalism system, moving workers and operations to other countries, abusing the broken tax code, and taking advantage of people. Yup that's how they earned it, by screwing the bottom 99 percent over.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by petch751

No kidding! That's the fricken point! ding... ding... ding... ding.... we have a winner!

But the left likes to constantly attack the rich so you'll support higher taxes and who wins? Government, because they've gained your support of raising taxes on the very people who provide jobs, services and products you want.

Once again, the willingness to kiss the butt of one side of the equation!

Guess what? They don't make those products or provide those services without workers so please spare us the BS that one side deserves to pay no taxes because they're somehow more important than the other.