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Old 05-24-2017, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Too bad Islam doesn't instruct its followers to mutilate the genitalia of young girls.

Genital mutilation is a cultural practice, not a religious practice.

And it's against the law in the United States.

The doctors have no defense.
There is not a biblical mandate forbidding birth control, yet Hobby Lobby used religious conscious as a reason not to provide it in their employees insurance.

There is not a biblical verse that states by selling a food item (cake) to a gay person, one is committing a sin. Yet, the Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act allows businesses to refuse services to gay people.

These examples and others like them, have opened the door to arguments using religious freedoms as a defense.

 
Old 05-24-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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Interesting, Alonso. Here in the US, most baby boys, including christians, are circumcised. Is that not true in Mexico?
I don't think so, I am circumcised but Most of the others are not.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 02:44 PM
 
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It's a widespread Christian practice too.


Perhaps Among Protestants not necesarilly among Catholics.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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There is not a biblical mandate forbidding birth control, yet Hobby Lobby used religious conscious as a reason not to provide it in their employees insurance.

There is not a biblical verse that states by selling a food item (cake) to a gay person, one is committing a sin. Yet, the Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act allows businesses to refuse services to gay people.
There is a Biblical mandate to go forth and be fruitful. In that sense, birth control would go against Biblical teachings.

That said, I believe the Supreme Court ruled in error, because in the case of Hobby Lobby, its ruling essentially allowed a corporation, an entity separated from its owners in order to avoid liablity, to have a religion. The ruling doesn't make sense, and I believe one day will be overturned.

This case isn't in Indiana, so that point is moot.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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OP, I'm asking you again why you're trying to link FGM to the Indiana law which includes a caveat that would keep things like FGM illegal.

I mean you could link an article about honor killing too and reference the Indiana law but it's not going to make that legal either.

So how about talking about a realistic impact of such a law? Maybe vaccination or something else like a church not allowing gays to get married in the church?
 
Old 05-24-2017, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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This thread topic is about how far we can take religious freedom. Religion would include ANY and all religions.
It's an ancient tribal custom most prevalent in parts of Africa. Tribal customs and religion are interwoven in many places. Just like Judaism and Christianity, Islam has endless denominations/ sects with many taking on traditional customs of geographic locations.

FGM is big in Somalia and Egypt, despite that it's illegal in Egypt.

It is not common in the Middle East, except for very remote areas in some countries.

One would think if this was truely a Muslim thing, it would be considered SOP in Saudi Arabia, no?
 
Old 05-24-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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As long as they limit it to themselves, go for it.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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yea what we going to do about circumcisions?
 
Old 05-24-2017, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Circumcision is a Jewish practice in Little boys genitalia and they argue Religious tradition too....


That is why I am Christian.
According to Genesis, God told Abraham to circumcise himself, his household and his slaves. There is no doubt, that the man now called Jesus was circumcised.

Circumcision is required of Muslim males.

The practice never took off in Europe. It was uncommon in the US before WW2.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
Too bad Islam doesn't instruct its followers to mutilate the genitalia of young girls.

Genital mutilation is a cultural practice, not a religious practice.

And it's against the law in the United States.

The doctors have no defense.
And neither do the parents who sought out, travelled to and gave their consent.
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