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Old 05-28-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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Serious question. Why aren't we complaining about how their communities don't value education? Why don't we expect them to retrain? Why don't we expect them to relocate, in search of work? Why do we sacrifice the water we drink and the very air we breathe so that a few thousand of them might enter the middle class?

 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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Retrain for Burger King just to get replaced by a machine in a couple years?

I have never seen a valid thread that starts off as a question.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:17 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Serious question. Why aren't we complaining about how their communities don't value education? Why don't we expect them to retrain? Why don't we expect them to relocate, in search of work? Why do we sacrifice the water we drink and the very air we breathe so that a few thousand of them might enter the middle class?
Because they don't see themselves as 'leeches, takers, or mooches" the way they refer to others doing the very same thing they are.

They see themselves as just temporarily embarassed millionaires.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:20 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Serious question. Why aren't we complaining about how their communities don't value education? Why don't we expect them to retrain? Why don't we expect them to relocate, in search of work? Why do we sacrifice the water we drink and the very air we breathe so that a few thousand of them might enter the middle class?
Because they are gun toting, Trump voting, Bible thumping real 'Muricans. Didn't you get the memo? Only minorities can be lazy leeches
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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We do what we can. But one must make a greater effort to overcome obstacles when there are more of them in your way. And some people have personal obstacles to overcome on top of that. Not everyone is gifted. Not everyone is smart. And not everyone is inherently hard working and easily motivated. FWIW, my life was much easier the further I traveled and live from the rust belt. Here, you are expected to work harder, and carry more dead weight. If you don't like it, your company will effortlessly find someone else to do your job, and you can try your luck elsewhere.

The rust belt is a region still struggling to find it's place in the modern economy. You can choose to ignore these people and businesses, or you can choose to acknowledge that we live in the United States, and we are all bound as one. Telling these people that you are going to eliminate their livelihoods and take away their ability to feed their family did not help. In fact, it was quite destructive. Maybe our country will decide to put it's people first in the future, but I doubt it. I fear we aren't that smart as a country anymore, unfortunately. Standardized test scores from our nation's high schools show that won't be changing anytime soon.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Any able-bodied person has the ability to improve their lives. Some will make excuses and not do what is required to make the change.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Serious question. Why aren't we complaining about how their communities don't value education? Why don't we expect them to retrain? Why don't we expect them to relocate, in search of work? Why do we sacrifice the water we drink and the very air we breathe so that a few thousand of them might enter the middle class?
Way to stereotype working-class whites there, gladhands. You and other Progressives assume all working class white rust-belt and Appalachia Americans are uneducated, unemployed, unemployable, and polluting "the water we drink". And the democrats wonder why they continue to lose elections.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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There is no darn rust belt anymore, most of it was rusted and dismantled not even memory remains of the days when those communities invested quite a bit of labor and brains to make world class products. The #1 issue of capitalism - a tiny minority appropriates all the output, makes all the decisions and controls majority in the ways as to maximaze their gains. It is not curable by bootstrapping. At any instance people and communities making all the right bootstrapping choices can see everything taken from them so master class could make a few pesos more elsewhere.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:30 AM
 
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Any able-bodied person has the ability to improve their lives. Some will make excuses and not do what is required to make the change.
Slave conditioning 101. Social problems have no individual solutions.
 
Old 05-28-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Slave conditioning 101. Social problems have no individual solutions.
Yes, this would be an example of an excuse.
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