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Proper representation to 3.4 million American Citizens. Remember one of the major reasons we sort independence was a lack of representation while still being taxed.
And much of the screw ups in Puerto Rico were in fact engineered by the US government.
So statehood and 50 billion or so in payments in lieu of reparations for the US past sins?
I don't really believe that is rational or possible...but significant support of PR should be set up. I see no reason why it cannot be turned into a huge tourist mecca and international business center. Simply have to stop suppressing growth there.
........the ultimate blame is the ultimate authority that controls the barn. The federal government has to stop suppressing growth in Puerto Rico. Give finally 3.4 million American Citizens representation and a voice over the federal laws that rules their lives everyday for over 1 century.
When compared to Latin America, Puerto Rico has the highest GDP per capita in the region and that's with the federal government tying their hands with the current territorial status and no voice and no representation.
Puerto Rico has Nothing to offer? ......then why take it from Spain in 1898 and keep it for over 1 century? it offers a lot for the U.S to expand powers and be a Super Power and be in others affairs in that part of the region to expand commerce and capitalism.
Who controls the "handouts" and signs the federal checks?....is not the states or territories so you are barking at the wrong tree.....If you have a problem with federal spending then that is Washington D.C., go complain to your 2 Senators and representatives that represent you., at least you have representation, Puerto Rico doesn't. The U.S. has a 20 trillion dollar debt and Puerto Rico didn't cause that and keeping Puerto Rico disenfranchise as a territory for another 100 years won't cut your taxes or bring down the national debt.
Puerto Rico only wants representation and a voice for the federal laws and federal government they have to obey and live under for over a century.
the federal government controls what goes in P.R. and out and when and how. It controls all transportation from all goods from air, sea and land. Wall Street controls a lot in the island in every bank and loan in the island............so to say the federal government and Wall Street who are in bed with our federal government doesn't benefit from Puerto Rico for decades is very naive to the situation on the ground.
for every $1 the Federal Government gives in federal aid, they and Wall Street take back double and triple in that......the Federal government never gives anything for free, they take more back in other ways that is not transparent to the masses.
The economy of Puerto Rico is classified as a high income economy by the World Bank and has the most competitive economy in Latin America by the World Economic Forum and you say it doesn't offer anything to the U.S. and Wall Street?
This isn't 1898 anymore. Spain can take it back if they want it. Or better yet PR can become its own country and not have to suffer anymore with all that Federal control, especially if they are a high income country as you say.
Proper representation to 3.4 million American Citizens. Remember one of the major reasons we sort independence was a lack of representation while still being taxed.
And much of the screw ups in Puerto Rico were in fact engineered by the US government.
So statehood and 50 billion or so in payments in lieu of reparations for the US past sins?
I don't really believe that is rational or possible...but significant support of PR should be set up. I see no reason why it cannot be turned into a huge tourist mecca and international business center. Simply have to stop suppressing growth there.
Great, then let them seek independence over lack of representation. That'll free them from all the US govt screw ups too. And guess what, they are not owed any reparations, nor would they ever get any so that is a moot point.
Proper representation to 3.4 million American Citizens. Remember one of the major reasons we sort independence was a lack of representation while still being taxed.
Yeah. And that's why we became INDEPENDENT.
They should too. If they have a gripe with U.S colonialism, the solution to that is to become independent. Trying to become a state is backwards logic that makes no sense.
As an independent nation they would have complete sovereignty.
They should too. If they have a gripe with U.S colonialism, the solution to that is to become independent. Trying to become a state is backwards logic that makes no sense.
As an independent nation they would have complete sovereignty.
And offer 100 bilion in reparations for the years we have oppressed them?
They should too. If they have a gripe with U.S colonialism, the solution to that is to become independent. Trying to become a state is backwards logic that makes no sense.
As an independent nation they would have complete sovereignty.
too late for that. They are U.S. Citizens for over 1 century and the only system they know is the U.S. system and more Puerto Ricans live in the states than the territory. Their ties to the U.S. are too deep.
Becoming a state with representation makes perfect sense if they want to keep their U.S. Citizenship and continue to be part of the American system......states have sovereignty. 37 TERRITORIES wanted it and got it.
IF the U.S. had your mentality then it would be only a 13 state nation, instead of a 50 states nation.
even the 13 colonies could have gone independent each but they decided to form a federal union..........so I don't understand your confusion over Puerto Rico.
Great, then let them seek independence over lack of representation. That'll free them from all the US govt screw ups too. And guess what, they are not owed any reparations, nor would they ever get any so that is a moot point.
did we treat the 37 territories that are states today the same? they wanted representation also . Did we cut "them loose" and force independence on them?
funny, name me one U.S. Territory with U.S. CITIZENSHIP in the history of our nation that the U.S. "cut loose" and force independence on them? name 1.
This isn't 1898 anymore. Spain can take it back if they want it. Or better yet PR can become its own country and not have to suffer anymore with all that Federal control, especially if they are a high income country as you say.
What? LMAO! Spain can't take it back because its not for sale or even an option......that's like California going back to Mexico and Florida back to Spain and Alaska back to Russia. All have the same odds, NONE!
1) The Federal Government is not in the business of giving land away or authority.
2) Puerto Ricans are U.S. Citizens....learn the meaning of citizenship and comeback to me. You can't be an independent nation with the citizenship of another country.
3) Puerto Rico can become their own country just like the South wanted to be independent and become their own country. I guess we all know how that worked out for them.
4) Once the U.S. made Puerto Rico into a U.S. territory with U.S. Citizenship and full federal jurisdiction on them that's when they own Puerto Rico for good just like every land the federal government has grabbed and made it their own, just ask California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, Idaho and Oregon about that. Didn't they teach you U.S. History at your school?.....how do you think the U.S. went from a 13 colony/state broke NATION when it was founded in the eastern coast to a 50 state nation that goes all the way to Alaska and Hawaii?
5) Puerto Rico is a high income territory compare to the Latin Countries.....is not as I say, those are the facts if you know about economy to compare.
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did we treat the 37 territories that are states today the same? they wanted representation also . Did we cut "them loose" and force independence on them?
funny, name me one U.S. Territory with U.S. CITIZENSHIP in the history of our nation that the U.S. "cut loose" and force independence on them? name 1.
don't bother to look, there is no precedent.
Doesn't matter what we did in the past. PR has nothing to offer the US and would be a drag on the rest of us.
I truly believe this is a ploy by liberals and Democrats to gain and hold power.
And in other breaking news, water is wet.
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........the ultimate blame is the ultimate authority that controls the barn. The federal government has to stop suppressing growth in Puerto Rico. Give finally 3.4 million American Citizens representation and a voice over the federal laws that rules their lives everyday for over 1 century.
......then why take it from Spain in 1898 and keep it for over 1 century? it offers a lot for the U.S to expand powers and be a Super Power and be in others affairs in that part of the region to expand commerce and capitalism.
