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Old 06-18-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Looks like the rural hicks won.Didn't think there were that many of us,thought we all moved to the city.Suprise Surprise Surprise.See y'all at the Rodeo in TN next week.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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Sanders wouldn't have won either. He would have been painted as a "commie socialist" and probably done worse than Hillary. Mainstream Dems didn't really like Sanders.

Unfortunately this election was full on Stupid for both parties, with two bad candidates, but the Republicans really had the idiocy going, nominating a guy who doesn't hold a single Republican principle, and who was a Democrat until recently. They couldn't have done worse nominating Daffy Duck.
Well Trump barely won and he lost the popular vote. This dispite the fact that people were constantly chanting for Hillary to be locked up.

While Bernie Sanders was viewed as a commie socialist to some he did have a certain charisma and he wasn't view as a typical politician. Than there's the fact that there's few scandals involved with him like Hillary. You have to remember that before Hillary overtook Sanders in the Primary he was polling better against Trump than her.
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Old 06-18-2017, 09:52 PM
 
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Is anyone actually arguing that the results of the election weren't legitimate? The problem is that there were and continue to be ongoing questions as to Trump and his campaign/administration's involvement in collusion, as well as general shadiness and corruption top to bottom. The "traitor" stuff, from what I have seen, is thrown at Trump supporters because they so often put Trump's well-being and reputation above the defense of the US, its historic principles and the Constitution. Trump supporters are so caught up in their unwavering love for the man, that they constantly make arguments that could easily be considered traitorous in the larger view.
I didn't vote for either one of them, but I think it is more a defensive attitude re perceiving the 'other side' (those who criticize their views) as being arrogant and condescending, rather than an "unwavering love for the man".
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Old 06-18-2017, 09:54 PM
 
Location: London
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That is not a generally accepted definition. Suburbs are part of urban America. They are simply less dense parts of the city. 80 percent of the population is urban/suburban. 20 percent is rural/small town. Suburbs are part of the developed continuum emanating out of urban centers. Small towns (generally less than say 5,000 or 10,000 people are separated from urban/suburban areas by significant mostly empty spaces (farms, forest, plains etc). Rural is those mostly empty spaces.
Huh. I have heard that only 20% of Americans lived in rural areas, and I thought that seemed very low, but I guess that's because my definition of urban wasn't as broad as the standard definition.

I've only ever lived in some the most population dense cities in North America (SF, NYC, Vancouver) and abroad (Indian and East Asian cities), so my perspective is probably skewed.
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Old 06-18-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: PSL
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Why would any state affected by 9-11 vote for the idiots who were asleep at the wheel during 9-11? Would that make any sense?

Bush's negligence led to the murder of 3,000 Americans on 9-11. He didn't cause the terror, but his ineptness allowed it. New Yorkers and New Jerseyans would be crazy to vote for Bush under the circumstances.

And since when did rural areas support places like NYC? The rural hicks were the ones who put Trump in office. Trump is a catastrophe for urban America.
Bush... bush was at fault when clinton had the chance to bag him?

If you're going to pin blame... There's who you pin it on...
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Old 06-18-2017, 10:32 PM
 
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oh but it is so much worse here n the Great Untied States. We have no comprehension or patience for the resy of the country...it's about me me me meme me.

And we elected a President who thinks the same...so all is good.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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"The Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation survey of nearly 1,700 Americans — including more than 1,000 adults living in rural areas and small towns — finds deep-seated kinship in rural America, coupled with a stark sense of estrangement from people who live in urban areas. Nearly 7 in 10 rural residents say their values differ from people who live in big cities, including about 4 in 10 who say their values are “very different.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/class...20a_story.html

Yes, I know it's the WaPo..and the article is long---but well worth reading..IMO
This is confirming the obvious. In a rural area, you don't have as many people. You are inherently more friendly to everyone because you will run into them again. In a city, you can tell them to go pound sand and you'll never see them again so it doesn't matter.

Played out naturally, people are willing to help people they know and will see on a continual basis. This is especially true in areas where at some point or another, you will need help yourself. In the city you pay people to do things you can't do. You don't need to know them.

As such, it's only natural that a rural area would value community more highly than in a city, which would value security and orderly process.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:05 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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oh but it is so much worse here n the Great Untied States. We have no comprehension or patience for the resy of the country...it's about me me me meme me.

And we elected a President who thinks the same...so all is good.
Last president thought about people who looked like him only.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:41 PM
 
Location: WY
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"The Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation survey of nearly 1,700 Americans — including more than 1,000 adults living in rural areas and small towns — finds deep-seated kinship in rural America, coupled with a stark sense of estrangement from people who live in urban areas. Nearly 7 in 10 rural residents say their values differ from people who live in big cities, including about 4 in 10 who say their values are “very different.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/class...20a_story.html

Yes, I know it's the WaPo..and the article is long---but well worth reading..IMO
If the WaPo-Kaiser Family Foundation conducted the opposite poll of nearly 1700 Americans (including more than 1000 adults living in urban areas and large cities) would they find............."a deep-seated kinship in urban America, coupled with a stark sense of estrangement from people who live in rural areas?" Would "nearly 7 in 10 urban residents say their values differ from those who live in rural areas and small towns, including 4 in 10 who say their values are "very different"?

I'm willing to bet they would.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:44 PM
 
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Evidently they are also the smartest because we won! Stick that up your flagpole and see how it flies. Hillary used more money and the same kind of charm you used in your post to lose the election. She is not likeable. Trump is interesting and fun.
Hopefully, you understand that "interesting and fun" are not qualities that make a person qualified for the most important job in the world.
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