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I think, at some point in the future, the whole notion of gender equality will be rolled back to what it was around the 19th century and this whole sorry sociocultural exercise will be looked back upon with cringing embarrassment.
That is because, irrespective of whether you agree with it or not, as an ideology, it is unworkable, contradicts scientifically verifiable biological differences, is ideologically self-conflicted and, in the long term, fundamentally incompatible with self-sustaining civilization.
Hmmm...back where women couldn't vote, own things, could be beaten, all that jazz? Sounds peachy. Sigh.
From that point of view, evidence from peer-reviewed studies show that it has not only failed to achieve that objective, but actually pushed things the other way to become a force for harm. Sociologists refer to it as the Paradox of Declining Female Happiness.
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This implies that these negative effects are not due to increasing expectations among women regarding their career goals or social objectives, as one might imagine, but rather to do with far deeper issues, such as immutable biological differences.
Your response to the video demonstrates a fairly classic problem. The study being cited does not address why women are less happy. The title of the video blames feminism, but until the "why" question is answered, we don't know that feminism, per se, is the reason. We also don't know that this unhappiness has anything to do with "biological difference" let alone "immutable" biological differences. There are many possibilities. Suggesting the feminism and/or immutable biological differences are to blame is simply jumping to conclusions.
The only reason I hesitate to compare the struggle of women to blacks is that, in America, blacks have had much tougher oppression than women. But in this case, exchanging "female" with "black" works.
I think, at some point in the future, the whole notion of gender equality will be rolled back to what it was around the 19th century and this whole sorry sociocultural exercise will be looked back upon with cringing embarrassment.
That is because, irrespective of whether you agree with it or not, as an ideology, it is unworkable, contradicts scientifically verifiable biological differences, is ideologically self-conflicted and, in the long term, fundamentally incompatible with self-sustaining civilization.
Do you mind elaborating? I'm actually curious to hear your train of thought.
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Originally Posted by latimeria
Hmmm...back where women couldn't vote, own things, could be beaten, all that jazz? Sounds peachy. Sigh.
I appreciate some may be horrified by this. However, what I say here is not some arbitrary thing pulled out of the air on a whim, but a conclusion I've come to after many years of careful observation and study.
One pivotal moment for me is seeing how Amish women are not the equals of Amish men, yet they are loved, deeply respected and cared for by their husbands and their families in most cases that I've seen. I've yet to see one example of a modern liberated woman who has a similar sense of security. This challenges the presupposition that a woman must feel equal to a man, at an ontological level, in order to feel normal or happy or secure in her to day-to-day life.
Another case in point are the psychological and social consequences that stem from trying to socially engineer gender equality between men and women. At an axiomatic level, we are aware of ethical convictions deep down that men and women are not equal, irrespective of whether we like it or not. That is why people who abide by radical feminist convictions often show bizarre coping behavior. In a sense they are trying to justify their own beliefs to themselves as much as to others.
I believe that body image disorders among young women are one of many harmful ways in which women try to reconcile this conflict between what society tells them to be, and what their moral sense tells them to be.
It is a big step forward in feminism that women are empowered enough to shave their heads and stab horses with nails. Well that is neo-feminism. Old time feminism and equal rights is the best, but new radical feminism is looney and irrational. I don't know why they are so angry, they have so much more freedom and opportunity as women than previous generations did.
Another case in point are the psychological and social consequences that stem from trying to socially engineer some kind of equality between men and women. Whether you may like it or not, at an axiomatic level, we know deep down that men and women are not equal.
I appreciate some may be horrified by this. However, what I say here is not some arbitrary thing pulled out of the air on a whim, but a conclusion I've come to after many years of careful observation and study.
One pivotal moment for me is seeing how Amish women are not the equals of Amish men, but yet they are loved, deeply respected and cared for by their husbands and their families in most cases that I've seen. I've yet to see one example of a modern liberated woman who has a similar sense of security. This challenges the presupposition that a woman must feel equal to a man, at an ontological level, in order to feel normal or happy or secure in her to day-to-day life.
Another case in point are the psychological and social consequences that stem from trying to socially engineer gender equality between men and women. At an axiomatic level, we are aware of ethical convictions deep down that men and women are not equal that holds true irrespective of whether we like it or not. That is why people who abide by radical feminist convictions often show bizarre coping behavior. In a sense they are trying to justify their own beliefs to themselves as much as to others.
I believe that body image disorders among young women are one of many harmful ways in which women try to reconcile this conflict between what society tells them to be, and what their moral sense tells them to be.
Because it is horrifying. Women will not go back to being the property of men. They will not go back to being second-class citizens. And your desire that they do so because you believe the world is better for it is horrifying.
Sounds like someone has just read/started watching The Handmaid's Tale!
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Well that is neo-feminism. Old time feminism and equal rights is the best, but new radical feminism is looney and irrational. I don't know why they are so angry, they have so much more freedom and opportunity as women than previous generations did.
