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Old 06-20-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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The left throw around the term "fair share" and accuse "the rich" of not paying their fair share.

Just exactly what the fair share should be? Is it 10% or $10?
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Depends on the level of benefit you get. I'd like to see a 50% effective rate, and a guaranteed basic income for example. LOL.

Honestly its about 25%, which based on taxes, and fees is what the vast majority effectively pay....except for some at the very very top. They actually pay less then that on average. Some pay more.

Please note-effective.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:08 PM
 
Location: PSL
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If you want fair...

Take the budget to run the country for one calender year.
Divide that $ by the total population.

That would be the same dollar amount for everyone to pay per year.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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if we are talking a flat tax...10% or maybe 15% at most... no person should pay a different percentage than the other...we are all equal, tax us equally

no one or entity should pay more than 15%...if the government cant run on 15% of everyone income...then the government has a spending problem


personally I would rather see the income tax go the way of the Dinosaur , taxing income, especially when 17% to 52% of income is never reported (people working off the books)... I would rather a consumption tax (a federal sales tax)....

research www.fair-tax.org this is the way to go in my humble opinion
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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No one will ever agree on what is fair.

That's why the justice system is based on law and has nothing to do with what is fair.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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if we are talking a flat tax...10% or maybe 15% at most... no person should pay a different percentage than the other...we are all equal, tax us equally

no one or entity should pay more than 15%...if the government cant run on 15% of everyone income...then the government has a spending problem


personally I would rather see the income tax go the way of the Dinosaur , taxing income, especially when 17% to 52% of income is never reported (people working off the books)... I would rather a consumption tax (a federal sales tax)....

research www.fair-tax.org this is the way to go in my humble opinion
I love how you call yourself a working class hero....while ignoring that the taxes you suggest would be overwhelmingly bad for actual working class americans.

Consumption taxes are a great example of how to shift the tax burden onto them.

How about instead a wealth tax? Your total wealth gets taxed. That would be a 5% tax per year total.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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Ok, if you deduct the cost of living, I might be on board with that - so say the first $40,000 for an individual or $80,000 for a family is tax free. That way, the income tax is what it was always supposed to be - a luxury tax.
I did this once before.

It comes out using the US population in 2011 and the 2011 budget, to 10k dollars per person. Every man, woman, child.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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I did this once before.

It comes out using the US population in 2011 and the 2011 budget, to 10k dollars per person. Every man, woman, child.
LOL. I pay more then that. Oh noes! I'm being repressed!
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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The tax proposals by both parties is not the silver bullet its claimed to be. Its only one element of a system that has been corrupted and out of balance. The fair rate is only one part that quickly becomes unfair when the wealth gap keeps increasing.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:29 PM
 
Location: PSL
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LOL. I pay more then that. Oh noes! I'm being repressed!
I think most of us do pay more than that.

This doesn't include the corporate tax either, this is purely the federal governments expense to run being taken from every man, woman, child, who resides here.

That was the 2011 military budget, congress, you name it.
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