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Old 06-26-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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Dear lord how many times does one need to repeat this: Medicare doesn't pay for long-term nursing homes. They only pay for up to 100 days, but after the 21st day you have to pay a very high deductible of about $161/day. Most people usually have $13k lying around, but after that it's gonna get expensive really fast. My loved one is paying $10k/month. She was married to a law firm partner... what about your loved ones?

Know the difference. https://www.elderlawanswers.com/medi...coverage-12131
Thank you. Apparently, this cannot be repeated enough.

Medicaid is used in some states for in-home support to help people stay in their homes as long as possible.

Elderly and the disabled account for over half of Medicaid spending.

Policy Basics: Introduction to Medicaid | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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Good lord. You remove people from dialysis and they will be dead within a week or two. Had a friend stop his, he was dead within 10 days. Dialysis is expensive.

What you folks regurgitating the left wing kneejerk scare tactic claims in response to the upcoming (one can hope) dismantling and replacing Obamacare either don't realize, don't care or didn't think about is that patients whose end state renal disease requires dialysis automatically qualify for Medicare, regardless of their age. They would continue to have their dialysis, along with their other medical needs paid for, regardless of what happens with Medicaid.

https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Coordin...ESRD/ESRD.html
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:22 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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You seriously expect churches to be able to cover the cost of long term care for millions upon millions of elderly Americans? Or even average Americans? Long term care costs an average of over $6,000 a month.

I don't know what you're smoking, but that's some good ****.
LOL. Their magical thinking never fails to amaze me.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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You seriously expect churches to be able to cover the cost of long term care for millions upon millions of elderly Americans? I don't know what you're smoking, but that's some good ****.
Churches? Please.

With the exception of the Salvation Army, the mission to take care of the less fortunate is not a priority.

There are numerous continuous care facilities run by various religions. They are not cheap to get into and the ones I know about are not even interested in Medicaid funded residents, let alone those who can't pay at all.

Expecting churches to pick up the slack is unrealistic at best.

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Old 06-26-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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That's the problem. Let Medicare fund them. BTW, that sounds awfully backwards. Medicaid is supposed to be a temporary insurance until you get back on your feet unless you're disabled. Medicare is the permanent one for 65+. The system there is busted. It needs to be fixed so that a temporary program isn't funding longer than the permanent one.
I am not sure where you are getting your information, but you may want to turn to a different source.

You are seriously misinformed.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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You seriously expect churches to be able to cover the cost of long term care for millions upon millions of elderly Americans? Or even average Americans? Long term care costs an average of over $6,000 a month.

I don't know what you're smoking, but that's some good ****.
Yes. I do. Not necessarily by simply cutting a check, but by loving and caring for people and investing in lives of people. We don't have to ship old people off to a home.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Yes. I do. Not necessarily by simply cutting a check, but by loving and caring for people and investing in lives of people. We don't have to ship old people off to a home.
Really? I hope you are qualified to care for a stroke victim can neither move or communicate or possibly swallow.

Or monitor the old lady on Coumadin that bleeds like a stuck pig at the drop of a hat.

It's really not always that simple.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Most are on Medicare. Know the difference.
Medicare only pays for 100 days of long term nursing care, then if you don't have assets you go on medicaid.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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What you folks regurgitating the left wing kneejerk scare tactic claims in response to the upcoming (one can hope) dismantling and replacing Obamacare either don't realize, don't care or didn't think about is that patients whose end state renal disease requires dialysis automatically qualify for Medicare, regardless of their age. They would continue to have their dialysis, along with their other medical needs paid for, regardless of what happens with Medicaid.

https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Coordin...ESRD/ESRD.html
Did you even read your own link? Medicare begins covering dialysis on the fourth month of treatment. Who's paying for month 0-4? They only pay at the beginning IF you're imminently about to get a kidney transplant (hope you have someone willing to give you one as soon as you need it) or you are all trained and ready to do self-dialysis. Self-dialysis should be easy right? Well, you better have the up front money to do some plumbing or electrical reworking on your home and buy the supplies needed to accommodate it and have a loved one who can help you do it each time you need it.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Yes. I do. Not necessarily by simply cutting a check, but by loving and caring for people and investing in lives of people. We don't have to ship old people off to a home.
Not all elderly people have families who can take care of them, and of those who do- very few have relatives who can quit their jobs and stay home to take care of an elderly relative who needs regular nursing care.
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