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Question. I understand that silencers are not like the movies. However, as much as I can tell the proposed law does not limit the decibel level to which a silencer can achieve.
So for people who support the law would you also support a floor threshold for decibals?
If not the hearing safety thing is a canard.
If you want a suppressor way longer than the barrel, I can make it sound like a daisy bb gun.
Short barrel rifles, work awesome with a 14" noise suppressor, with plugs and washers, oiled gauze filled, or you can use steel wool and no oil and it is a tad louder.
1. Ammo plays a role.
2. The action of the weapon plays a role.
3. It shouldn't matter how quiet they are. Unless you're for me chopping mufflers off of every car, Harley, and truck, in your area.
A suppressor will not make a weapon easier to conceal.
There are already integrally suppressed weapons out on the market.
This shouldn't be an issue.
The arguement that keeps being put forward by gun advocates is that it just somewhat lessens the decibels and does not make it a sneaky weapon as in movies. But if you do not put a floor in the bill than suppressors could become a big market. This could lead manufacturers thru competition to develop ever more silent silencers till they are like in the movies.
So again. Would gun advocates agree to a floor on decibels
This bill specifically says to give guns to mentally ill, crazy right?!
You DA's let the nutz out of the asylums. Now they walk the streets with full rights. That includes their 1st so they can yell at their invisible friend and their 2nd to defend themselves from their invisible friend.
You DA's let the nutz out of the asylums. Now they walk the streets with full rights. That includes their 1st so they can yell at their invisible friend and their 2nd to defend themselves from their invisible friend.
Da's? Reagan did that when he shut down mental institutions.
The arguement that keeps being put forward by gun advocates is that it just somewhat lessens the decibels and does not make it a sneaky weapon as in movies. But if you do not put a floor in the bill than suppressors could become a big market. This could lead manufacturers thru competition to develop ever more silent silencers till they are like in the movies.
So again. Would gun advocates agree to a floor on decibels
Nope. Because to make anything so silent would not be concealable. BentBow gave an example of length being 14 inches.
If I built a suppressor 14 inches of length and put it on my M1A National match the gun would be taller than me and weigh a ton. Even with elaborate CNC machined baffles out of aluminum.
I would have to play with the gas system to get it to cycle. So no this isn't an issue
The arguement that keeps being put forward by gun advocates is that it just somewhat lessens the decibels and does not make it a sneaky weapon as in movies. But if you do not put a floor in the bill than suppressors could become a big market. This could lead manufacturers thru competition to develop ever more silent silencers till they are like in the movies.
So again. Would gun advocates agree to a floor on decibels
I suppose it's possible, but not very practical.
The way a suppressor works is by trapping much of the explosive gasses.
The more gasses that are prevented from exiting the suppressor, the more end up quickly contaminating the barrel and after a few shots, the action of the weapon as well.
In essence, the better a suppressor works, the faster a gun will malfunction.....and the harder and dirtier it will be to clean.
Another instance I have an FN pistol with a threaded barrel. For that to be movie silent I'd need a much heavier grain projectile rending it inaccurate at further distances and would not be able to carry concealed.
Even the integrally suppressed pistol my favorite indoor range rents goes BANG not as loud as a normal pistol but FAR from whisper silent.
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