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Nope. Because to make anything so silent would not be concealable. BentBow gave an example of length being 14 inches.
If I built a suppressor 14 inches of length and put it on my M1A National match the gun would be taller than me and weigh a ton. Even with elaborate CNC machined baffles out of aluminum.
I would have to play with the gas system to get it to cycle. So no this isn't an issue
What you are arguing is current state of technology on a product that essentially had a very limited market. What is the harm in a decibel floor? If as you think it would be unachievable so what.
The way a suppressor works is by trapping much of the explosive gasses.
The more gasses are prevented from exiting the suppressor, the more end up quickly contaminating the barrel and after a few shots, the action of the weapon as well.
In essence, the better a suppressor works, the faster a gun will malfunction.....and the harder and dirtier it will be to clean.
This is absolutely true.
To develop an invincible bolt carrier for an AR manufacturers will shove suppressors wet bath and dry alike on the end of a short barrelled AR and boy are they filthy after a few rounds...
Better carry chlorinated brake cleaner... CLP isn't touching it.
What you are arguing is current state of technology on a product that essentially had a very limited market. What is the harm in a decibel floor? If as you think it would be unachievable so what.
By the time we achieve that, phased plasma rifle in the 40 watts range, completely silent, would be the choice.
To be honest, if one is shooting subsonic ammunition, it can be silenced almost completely. You will only hear the trigger and action.
What you are arguing is current state of technology on a product that essentially had a very limited market. What is the harm in a decibel floor? If as you think it would be unachievable so what.
*sighs* it's very difficult to keep patience with mechanically inept people who don't understand how these devices work...
1. A suppressor body needs as much volume as possible to retain the gasses. If not long and skinny short and fat hindering the sights. Look at a muffler on a pickup truck with a V8. About the size of a half keg of beer! Or skinnier in diameter but 4 feet in legth.
It's a muffler for a gun... you would want one whisper silent for the gun would not be
1. Accurate
2. Easily concealed
3. Range of effectiveness reduced
And if there's any doubts over velocity being reduced... I suggest you get a chronograph and shoot your gun of choice through said chronograph... compare the results suppressed and un-suppressed
The more effective a suppressor between heavier grain bullet and reduced charge, and larger suppressor baffle system, be it in length or diameter, will result in a reduced effectiveness and reduced range and reduced accuracy.
Don't believe me? Ask some sharpshooter why they do not have a muzzle brake but a straight bull barrel with a crown at the muzzle....
And conservatives don't know anything about science...
1. Ammo plays a role.
2. The action of the weapon plays a role.
3. It shouldn't matter how quiet they are. Unless you're for me chopping mufflers off of every car, Harley, and truck, in your area.
A suppressor will not make a weapon easier to conceal.
There are already integrally suppressed weapons out on the market.
If we do that at the firing range, it's a felony worse than murder.
I was referring to the criminals.
That would be a good test case, bring a pillow to the range. How about earplugs and headphones.
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