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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 09-25-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by James Bond 007 View Post
That is a lie. Show me where that rule is.
Snopes changed their ruling on this - they now rated it mixture of true and false.
Pretty much what I've said from the beginning - the word MUST is treated differently from SHOULD/MAY.

The NFL has also said it won't fine/punish the kneelers/fisters & they don't care if they show up for the National Anthem or not.

It doesn't matter, toothpaste is way out of the tube - now they have just a big yucky pile of toothpaste.

 
Old 09-25-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't have to explain anything. You said they were forced. They were not. I don't have to explain your misrepresentations.
Because I didn't misrepresent anything. Reasons matter except to those who cannot explain why they think the way the way they do.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Keep thinking this. No one has been pressured to do anything.
The coach said as a team they are going to sit. They were pressured. One player, a ranger, stood in the tunnel.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Wapasha View Post
That is just silly, no one is even trying to claim that as their reason for taking a knee.
Sure they are as shown in this hilarious post below.
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I know that President Trump must be very proud today, in the fact that so many America hating athletics came together to bow before him. It shows that they are aware that he is the MAN, and they are but his humble servants.

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Originally Posted by WannaliveinGreenville View Post
NFL Stadium worker walks out, throwing his hat on the ground .....because of the disrespectful ball players that refused to stand for the National Anthem.




“I took off my shirt, threw my Bills hat on the ground (and) walked out.”
Nikischer told the news station that he felt Bills players were being disrespectful with their failure to stand during the anthem, echoing statements made by President Donald Trump over the weekend in which he criticized players who have used the pre-game anthem for protest.


“That’s a total disrespect for our heritage,” Trump told a crowd gathered in Alabama on Friday. “That's a total disrespect for everything we stand for.”


NFL stadium worker quits job after national anthem protest | KIRO-TV


I think people are getting sick and tired of Hillary whiners, protesters who destroy confederate monuments and this garbage with the players.


Get back to football!
Oh well, now he's out of a job. Real smart.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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Not reciting the pledge, something written by a socialist, something that our founding fathers wouldn't approve of....is the most disrespectful thing an American can do.

Someone waving the flag of a group that literally committed treason against the USA...that should be respected.


Got it now?
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Not pushing squat. LOL
Yes you are LOL

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The company I work for has rules for what we can wear while at work. Rules about political discussion while at work. The company decides what is considered offensive. I can quit if I don't like it. I can violate those policies and be fired.
Keep wasn't banned from football. His performance didn't outweigh his controversies. In other words he just isn't worth the distraction.
So what does that have to do with anything?

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o how am I pushing my extremist views? Do you mean by exercising my right not to watch a game if anyone kneels during the anthem? How is that worse than players forcing me to watch them disrespect our Anthem and those who serve?
Your agenda of wanting people fired because you dont like what they did.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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So Brady was suspended based on the rule book and not the operations manual?

Man this is just as confusing as why the players are kneeling.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:10 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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The biggest thing I've noticed is people saying these "over privileged" athletes shouldn't do what they're doing, because they're wealthy.

Two things:

Do people forget these professional athletes are still human beings with emotions, opinions and views? They were "normal" before they became pro athletes, FYI. Pro athletes have the ability to bring more attention and money to causes they and regular people care about, and bring more attention to those matters than any normal person could.

Do Trump supporters forget that they voted for Trump because, despite being "privileged", he could relate to issues of the regular guy ()?

Talk about moving goalposts, but what else is new.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:13 PM
 
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You couldn't make this stuff up
The only patriotic NFL player was Alejandro Villanueva, born in Mississippi from Spanish (Spain) parents that were working there.

Now all conservatives are going to be holding an anchor baby as their heroe.
Anchor Baby??? My, my -- such denigration from a Leftist.

My kind of "Anchor Baby" for sure. What you denigrate as an "Anchor Baby", most of think of as a Hero.

His father was stationed in Mississippi as a NATO officer. Villanueuva went to West Point and play football there, then joined the Army as a Lieutenant - went to Ranger, Airborne & Infantry schools and was in the 10th Mountain Brigade. Did 3 tours in Afghanistan as a platoon leader, he moved into the 75th Rangers assigned to the 1st Ranger Battalion. His roles within the Battalion have included plans officer, platoon leader, and company executive officer, earned a bunch of medals and finally exited the service as a Captain. Villanueueva is in now a part time student at Carnegie Mellon, working on his MBA.

Nobody had to ^^^^^"make all that stuff up"^^^^^. It's all there in black & white with the Medals/degrees.

You betcha ...... typical "Anchor Baby" -- and 100% American Hero.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 03:13 PM
 
Location: E ND & NW MN
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Snopes changed their ruling on this - they now rated it mixture of true and false.
Pretty much what I've said from the beginning - the word MUST is treated differently from SHOULD/MAY.

The NFL has also said it won't fine/punish the kneelers/fisters & they don't care if they show up for the National Anthem or not.

It doesn't matter, toothpaste is way out of the tube - now they have just a big yucky pile of toothpaste.
Yes...

One is the NFL rules book which is a must or shall

The other is the NFL game operating manual which is a should and a guide for the game as a whole, including pre and post game activities.

Both mean entirely different things.
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