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Old 08-04-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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As proposed by Trump administration, the US may want to adopt a scoring system to choose immigrants.
In short, young people are scored higher than old people, educated higher than uneducated, high salary higher than low salary, fluent in English higher than otherwise.....

Pros: may be good for economy, may be fair to those who work hard
Cons: may violate the founding principles of the US, may be bad for low-skilled Americans, "unfair" to those who struggle
Technically that is the way to go...on paper anyways.
But you wait until these young and highly educated immigrants take away the best paying jobs in the country. Then ask your question again!
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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All immigration should be suspended pending a thorough overhaul.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:31 PM
 
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Technically that is the way to go...on paper anyways.
But you wait until these young and highly educated immigrants take away the best paying jobs in the country. Then ask your question again!
Well, if that starts happening, at least the highly skilled will be able to stop that too. Besides, high skilled have already been coming here taking jobs through the H1B visa program.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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I hope they'll still let people's elderly, widowed mothers come here, so they can take care of them even if they don't speak English and have no employment prospects. It's not always about working and paying taxes.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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This libbie has been advocating for that for some time now. ( shrugs)
But that goes against the open border advocates for those that can simply run across. No education, no skills but can reproduce quite handily. Thank you 14th amendment.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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I hope they'll still let people's elderly, widowed mothers come here, so they can take care of them even if they don't speak English and have no employment prospects. It's not always about working and paying taxes.
That would be showing compassion to parents of our citizens, who've been working and paying taxes for years. I wonder why we can't continue current system of green card petitions for relatives of current citizens AND have a point system.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:59 PM
 
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It's one of those things Trump is doing that makes you say "why haven't we been doing this?" It's common sense that someone from the business world gets....while career politicians (from both sides of the aisle) get too tied up by maintaining the status quo.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Japan
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As proposed by Trump administration, the US may want to adopt a scoring system to choose immigrants.
In short, young people are scored higher than old people, educated higher than uneducated, high salary higher than low salary, fluent in English higher than otherwise.....

Pros: may be good for economy, may be fair to those who work hard
A more selective immigration policy would be better all around. Countries thrive based on the quality of their human capital.
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Cons: may violate the founding principles of the US
Emma Lazarus was a 19th century poet, not a founding father. America absolutely was not built on the concept of being a land for the world's "wretched refuse".
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may be bad for low-skilled Americans, "unfair" to those who struggle
The opposite is true. Struggling Americans suffer the most from mass immigration of low-skilled workers who compete with them for jobs and drive down wages.

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Old 08-04-2017, 08:50 PM
 
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As proposed by Trump administration, the US may want to adopt a scoring system to choose immigrants.
In short, young people are scored higher than old people, educated higher than uneducated, high salary higher than low salary, fluent in English higher than otherwise.....

Pros: may be good for economy, may be fair to those who work hard
Cons: may violate the founding principles of the US, may be bad for low-skilled Americans, "unfair" to those who struggle
The founding principles of the US offer no support for immigration of any sort. What do you imagine those principles to be?

And a "merit-based" immigration policy is self-evidently better for low-skilled and struggling Americans than it will be for high-skilled and non-struggling Americans.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:54 PM
 
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It will be good for low-skilled Americans.
This.

I support skill-based immigration. It's how most industrialized countries deal with immigration.

As far as I can tell, it's not racist. Lots (and I mean lots) of highly skilled technical people from India, Pakistan, Nigeria, South Africa. The Indian Institutes of Technology produce graduates who are quite good. Lots of highly skilled people in Europe that are stymied by the bureaucratic non-entrepreneurial systems there.


In America, we have the opportunity to succeed and the chance to try again, the rule of law, and just need to add more skilled people to generate new opportunities.
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