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cant really speak for any of those people who you say said those things. I think white america has a culture, especially people whose families have been here for generations. IMO, people are aware of racism within their own cultures but they may not share it with white people because it's just not their culture so they assume they probably don't have an interest or understanding. If you have a good friend who is Asian, Latino, black, etc and you ask them for their honest opinion about it they might share.
Oh they share it lots of times, they think they're sneaky and clever by hiding behind and parroting liberal talking points, but many people see right through it. There were and still are blatantly violent attacks on anyone supporting the Republican nominee now President.
the difference between a white supremist and a white nationalist: a white supremist wants whites to be on top controlling the affairs of all other races. A white nationalist doesn't want any control over other races but wants our own schools, neighborhoods, history to be taught, etc. White nationalists want a white world where their children can grow up under a white value system in their own white territories. Nothing wrong with that. I don't think that most so called white supremists are really that but almost all are white nationalists.
White supremacy can't just mean anything and everything without meaning nothing or just opposition to everything white and being anti-white racism. So what is and isn't "white supremacy"?
White supremacy ideology entails believing that whites/European are superior to other people genetically and socially. That is what it is.
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Are historically white majority nations such as America and the West remaining white majority "white supremacy"?
Note, "the West" is not a nation. America today is not a nation filled with white supremacists. Please see above definition. Having a majority of a particular group is not the same as believing in a white supremacy ideology.
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Is asserting that racial/cultural groups differ in various ways and in compatibility "white supremacy"?
All cultures are different. However, if you believe yours is superior than another's you have a supremacist view from an ideological perspective.
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Are various different group outcomes among different identity groups "white supremacy"?
White supremacy ideology is defined above. It doesn't have to do with any other "identity groups" and is not specific to all white/European people. Only special ones who think they are very special
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Seems like it's just a meaningless and derogatory label to silence, disenfranchise and displace whites.
It is a label that has been around for decades and is specific to special people who believe that white skin makes them superior to all other people both genetically and culturally. Putting a name to a phenomenon does not disenfranchise anyone or displace whites. The vast majority of whites do not follow a white supremacist ideology. Those who feel displaced and silenced about their supremacist views, feel that way because they are racists white supremacists who want everyone to agree that they are "special" and deserve "special treatment" just because they are white and in their minds superior to all other types of humans in the country and/or world.
The former and the latter are intertwined. I never said "all". I implied in net. So you have created a strawman, an apples and oranges comparison and a non sequitur. Good job .
What does "in net" mean when you're talking about people? When you say "Dogs bite"... that kind of implies you mean most if not all dogs bite. If you don't mean that, be clearer with your language.
If you do mean that, let me rephrase my question delicately so you can understand. You are OK thinking most/in net/in practicality/whatever term you want to dance around non-whites want to kick white people out, and yet you think it's ridiculous for most liberals to think all white people are white supremacists? Seems to me both are pretty foolish, but your narrative seems to always go one way.
Oh they share it lots of times, they think they're sneaky and clever by hiding behind and parroting liberal talking points, but many people see right through it. There were and still are blatantly violent attacks on anyone supporting the Republican nominee now President.
I don't know what this has to do with what I said. I wasn't saying anything about President Trump. I was talking about racism within ethnic groups.
the difference between a white supremist and a white nationalist: a white supremist wants whites to be on top controlling the affairs of all other races. A white nationalist doesn't want any control over other races but wants our own schools, neighborhoods, history to be taught, etc. White nationalists want a white world where their children can grow up under a white value system in their own white territories. Nothing wrong with that. I don't think that most so called white supremists are really that but almost all are white nationalists.
White nationalist want their own "nation" hence the term "nationalist."
A white person can easily moved to a nation of majority white/European people and also can move to a neighborhood in America of majority white people.
However, most white nationalist are also white supremacists (FWIW this is the same with black nationalist/supremacists). They believe they are better than other people and don't want to be around other people so they want to have their own "nation."
Practically all race/ethnic nationalists hold supremacists views. If they did not, they wouldn't want to live in a homogenous society in order to escape other ethnic groups.
A white supremacist is an American who is disconnected from their ancestors' cultures. They lack identity, so they've tried to create one through their skin colour.
These people have probably never travelled outside the United States.
I agree with this 100%
Most white supremacists have no knowledge of their cultural heritage.
They also falsely believe that black people take pride in our skin color instead of our black American culture. We do not have a specific heritage to celebrate.
White supremacists actually could do some genealogical research and learn their ethnic roots if they wanted but they are lazy and don't care to know about their actual cultural roots to celebrate them and see how a majority of ethncities in America in particular have similar stories of hard work, perseverance, and triumph.
White supremacy ideology entails believing that whites/European are superior to other people genetically and socially. That is what it is.
So it seems like there is even a consensus among liberals, that white nationalist, leave alone immigration restrictionist, aren't necessarily white supremacist. So why does the establishment in the media and politics label it all so?
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When you say "Dogs bite"... that kind of implies you mean most if not all dogs bite. If you don't mean that, be clearer with your language. 