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Originally Posted by wallflash
Every single person that has ever received a pardon broke the rule of law, some violently so, such as armed robbers , some with actual killings, like terrorists, some very unethically and harmfully so, such as drug dealers. Yet you are outraged, and stunned that more people are not the same, over a misdemeanor.
Im not a religious man, but there is a phrase in the Bible that describes your selective outrage precisely. Swallow a camel whole while straining out a gnat.
That's not entirely true. There have been people who were convicted without physical evidence who were later exonerated by DNA evidence, who never committed the crime they were convicted of
That's not entirely true. There have been people who were convicted without physical evidence who were later exonerated by DNA evidence, who never committed the crime they were convicted of
lmao..If they were exonerated they didn't need a pardon genius.
Every single person that has ever received a pardon broke the rule of law, some violently so, such as armed robbers , some with actual killings, like terrorists, some very unethically and harmfully so, such as drug dealers. Yet you are outraged, and stunned that more people are not the same, over a misdemeanor.
No, every single person that has been pardoned did not break the law.
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Originally Posted by Dbones
lmao..If they were exonerated they didn't need a pardon genius.
Actually, some do. There are DA's offices that are so afraid of their "win" record, that even in the face of new evidence, won't overturn a conviction.
A great example is the West Memphis Three, who were convicted and sentenced to life sentences (with the death penalty for the oldest brother), with NO physical evidence or witnesses. All on circumstancial evidence.
So after they had spent over 15 years rotting away in prison and physical evidence cleared them, the state of Arkansas still didn't want to overturn the conviction, and to release them, they had to take an Alford plea, which let's the guilty verdict stand, AND they can't sue the state for wrongful imprisonment, AND any misdemeanor or felony will send them back to prison for 21 years!!!!!
That's not entirely true. There have been people who were convicted without physical evidence who were later exonerated by DNA evidence, who never committed the crime they were convicted of
OK, so lets make it 99 out of 100. Or 97, Or 95. Big deal. The point is that people have received pardons and commuted sentences for far far worse, armed robbery, some involving killings, some involving supplying hard drugs to Americans ( with all the associated violent crime that goes along with being a drug dealer ), some involving traitorous actions against the country, all of these serious felonies, but some lose their mind and wonder why everyone else isn't outraged over the pardon of a misdemeanor.
Like I said, strain a gnat, swallow a camel.
Last edited by wallflash; 08-29-2017 at 02:12 PM..
Every single person that has ever received a pardon broke the rule of law, some violently so, such as armed robbers , some with actual killings, like terrorists, some very unethically and harmfully so, such as drug dealers. Yet you are outraged, and stunned that more people are not the same, over a misdemeanor.
Im not a religious man, but there is a phrase in the Bible that describes your selective outrage precisely. Swallow a camel whole while straining out a gnat.
How many were pardoned that were officers of the law and defied a court order to continue breaking the law?
How many pardons were presidents telling the courts to shove it?
Regardless of you and your condescending Biblical phrases, this is indeed a big deal.
Last edited by GotHereQuickAsICould; 08-29-2017 at 03:18 PM..
How many were pardoned that were officers of the law and defied a court order to continue breaking the law?
How many pardons were presidents telling the courts to stick it where the sun don't shine?
Regardless of you and your condescending Biblical phrases, this is indeed a big deal.
My goodness. This is a big deal?
So pardoning a 85 year old Sheriff convicted of a misdemeanor is a big deal, but all the murders, drug dealers, rapists, traitors pardoned by previous Presidents is not? Get a life, seriously.
"If you weren't bothered by Obama inviting the al-Qaeda progenitor, the Muslim Brotherhood's, U.S. proxy CAIR into the White House for 'consultations' over 100 times - against the advice of the FBI, or Obama's failed attempt to blackmail Egypt to reinstall the Muslim Brotherhood into power in Egypt, or Obama's Munich Agreement with Iran; then why so worried about Trump pardoning a guy who was trying to enforce our immigration laws? Seriously, get your priorities straight."
"yeah but what about" is not and never will constitute a rational rebuttal to an argument
So pardoning a 85 year old Sheriff convicted of a misdemeanor is a big deal, but all the murders, drug dealers, rapists, traitors pardoned by previous Presidents is not? Get a life, seriously.
So perhaps our criminal justice system should be based on something similar to what you are suggesting. A murderer who only kills two people should be given some slack because someone else killed twelve people.
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