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liberals love to ignore science when it's inconvenient for them. Life begins at conception, if you want to make the argument that life begins when the heart/brain develop fine but don't tell me that 7-8 months after conception with a working brain and beating heart it's not alive yet.
liberals love to ignore science when it's inconvenient for them. Life begins at conception,
In your opinion. Last time I checked your opinion isn't science. It's just your opinion.
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Originally Posted by cttransplant85
if you want to make the argument that life begins when the heart/brain develop fine but don't tell me that 7-8 months after conception with a working brain and beating heart it's not alive yet.
I don't believe abortions should happen at 7-8 months unless it is to save the life of the mother, and neither do most, if not all, liberals. Fortunately, there are very, very, very few abortions done at that stage, and they are always medical necessities. In fact, they are against the law in most states unless it's to save the life of the mother.
But nice straw man argument you built up there so you could courageously strike it down. Feel better now?
Actually, the highest and best for our species is pro life. We just choose the easiest road. Personally I think we are better than that. Zip zap, child gone. Now back to my very self- important life.
Read. Comprehend. I never said you can't choose your own outcome. My problem is that you want me and everyone else to pay for you stupid decisions.
Do whatever you want. Don't expect me to pay for it via taxes, insurance premiums, or anything else.
You will pay more for unwanted children or children whose parents are not equipped to take care of them, and either dump them in foster care or expect the government to provide for them via welfare, food stamps, etc. for 18 years. Do the math.
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Actually, the highest and best for our species is pro life. We just choose the easiest road. Personally I think we are better than that. Zip zap, child gone. Now back to my very self- important life.
You know nothing of the lives of women who choose not to take their pregnancies to term. Nothing. Zero. Nada. Zilch. How about you mind your own life and allow everyone else to mind theirs?
Are you kidding? Why can't women choose? Here is the "choice" they should be making:
Option 1: You want to have a child...then procreate
Option 2: You dont want a child..DONT PROCREATE
Why is that such a difficult choice?
You know what. Women don't need to have men to have babies...only their sperm. And many women don't get off by men anyway. If you don't want a child then have a vasectomy or use a condom and stop blaming it on women.
You know what. Women don't need to have men to have babies...only their sperm. And many women don't get off by men anyway. If you don't want a child then have a vasectomy or use a condom and stop blaming it on women.
What the hell are you talking about? Your incoherent screed makes absolutely no sense. Can anyone else on CD figure out this mess?
"So, the pro-life mentality is necessarily about more than what you want to do with your body. You have to want to determine what other pregnant women do with their bodies, or else you are pro choice. Plenty of pro-choice women would never have an abortion."
Actually, I would like not-yet-pregnant women to take responsibility for their adult decisions and actions, e.g., copulating without proper contraceptives.
If they will not take responsibility before getting knocked-up, then they can certainly take responsibility for their actions afterward.
The analogy that best illustrates the abortion decision is a fishing boat captain who, once out to sea, throws his customer overboard and heads back to shore because it's his boat and he can do whatever he wants with his boat.
We would never allow a fishing boat captain to throw customers into the sea because he is an adult, responsible for his decisions and actions.
We don't need to have an unelected, unaccountable cabal declare fishing boat customers non-persons such that fishing boat captains could then have an invented right to throw them, at will, into the sea.
1. Even with proper contraceptives a pregnancy can happen and if that pregnancy is unwanted having an abortion IS TAKING REPONSIBILTY.
2. The fishing boat.....bad analogy.
The fishing boat captain's life is not put at risk by having that passenger on his boat.
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